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Non-Normative Gender and Sexual Identities in Schools: - Schools Out

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SJ: {it seems that, cos I I say a lot, that I th<strong>in</strong>k, obviously it’s important for people like<br />

me, which I’m not obviously do<strong>in</strong>g my job as it is, to be a role model for younger gay<br />

people <strong>and</strong> be open about my sexuality, but at the same time I feel like it would be more<br />

<strong>in</strong>fluential for a non-gay member of staff to st<strong>and</strong> up <strong>and</strong> be more more, get kids to be<br />

more accept<strong>in</strong>g of it. Because I th<strong>in</strong>k if I was a lot of kids would, it wouldn’t change their<br />

perceptions. Although obviously, I’m a liked teacher, so it would <strong>in</strong> that sense. They<br />

might sort of appreciate a bit more that just cos you are gay it doesn’t mean you are<br />

strange or whatever. But I th<strong>in</strong>k obviously if you are not gay <strong>and</strong> you accept<strong>in</strong>g of gay<br />

people that relates more closely to them as kids be<strong>in</strong>g not gay.<br />

AM: Yeah. I th<strong>in</strong>k that’s very important <strong>and</strong> I do have a number of friends who are<br />

teachers, ma<strong>in</strong>ly <strong>in</strong> primary schools actually, 3, 2, of three friends who teach <strong>in</strong> primary<br />

schools are straight <strong>and</strong> one is a gay man <strong>and</strong> it’s <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g that the two straight women<br />

are [//] I don’t know whether it is because they are friends with me or they have got a lot<br />

of other gay friends, but they are really push<strong>in</strong>g with<strong>in</strong> their classes for that k<strong>in</strong>d of<br />

equality…<br />

SJ: {yeah}<br />

AM: …it’s really nice for me. And it might be because they’ve got gay friends perhaps<br />

they wouldn’t be push<strong>in</strong>g so hard, but at least I just th<strong>in</strong>k, that’s a start.<br />

SJ: Yeah def<strong>in</strong>itely.<br />

AM: You know you have got some straight women their that you know are k<strong>in</strong>d of<br />

putt<strong>in</strong>g these issues on the agenda.<br />

SJ: Def<strong>in</strong>itely.<br />

AM: OK. Com<strong>in</strong>g to policies. Um, do you know if there are policies <strong>in</strong> your school<br />

regard<strong>in</strong>g homo/bi <strong>and</strong> transphobic bully<strong>in</strong>g specifically or whether it’s just <strong>in</strong>cluded <strong>in</strong><br />

the general bully<strong>in</strong>g policy?<br />

SJ: As far as I’m aware it’s just <strong>in</strong>cluded <strong>in</strong> the general policy. I don’t th<strong>in</strong>k we’ve got<br />

anyth<strong>in</strong>g specific on that at all that I know of.<br />

AM: And th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g about these policies um <strong>and</strong> it may be the case that you know very<br />

little about them, but from what you do know about them, do you feel that staff <strong>and</strong><br />

students who are LGBT or perceived LGBT are protected by these policies?<br />

SJ: Um yeah just as much as any other pupil would be aga<strong>in</strong>st anyth<strong>in</strong>g else they were<br />

deal<strong>in</strong>g with bully<strong>in</strong>g wise. Yeah I would have thought so. If for example, if a kid came<br />

to a head of year <strong>and</strong> said that they are be<strong>in</strong>g bullied for be<strong>in</strong>g bisexual or whatever um<br />

the head of year would deal with them exactly the same as if a kid came <strong>and</strong> said that<br />

they were be<strong>in</strong>g bullied for be<strong>in</strong>g fat.<br />

AM: Right OK.

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