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Non-Normative Gender and Sexual Identities in Schools: - Schools Out

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<strong>in</strong> an awkward situation because I almost, well I obviously did want to stick up for this<br />

girl, cos I knew what it felt like for her but at the same time I would never have wanted<br />

the attention po<strong>in</strong>t<strong>in</strong>g on me as to why I would be stick<strong>in</strong>g up for her that much, do you<br />

see what I mean?<br />

AM: Yeah.<br />

SJ: I had to be careful what words I used um.<br />

AM: Did you feel that if you supported her too much that it would become clear that you<br />

were perhaps gay or bisexual yourself?<br />

SJ: Um, possible yeah. I th<strong>in</strong>k, but I th<strong>in</strong>k as a teacher you always learn you don’t support<br />

people <strong>in</strong> terms of <strong>in</strong> their views, you more just [//] deal with the situation, do you know<br />

what I mean. But obviously I did have feel<strong>in</strong>gs towards that situation, so I wanted to<br />

support her but I had to be careful not to. I had to just sort of deal with the situation, deal<br />

with the pupils that behav<strong>in</strong>g out of l<strong>in</strong>e rather than particularly stick<strong>in</strong>g up for her if you<br />

see what I mean.<br />

AM: Yeah, so you weren’t really seen to take sides.<br />

SJ: Yeah.<br />

AM: OK, I th<strong>in</strong>k it’s <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g what you said, what you were say<strong>in</strong>g about the fact that<br />

you are a female PE teacher <strong>and</strong> <strong>in</strong> chang<strong>in</strong>g rooms. Um, the reason why I th<strong>in</strong>k it’s<br />

<strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g, it’s a rhetoric that’s come up quite a lot <strong>in</strong> my research where [//] um [//]<br />

homosexuality <strong>and</strong> bisexuality, homosexuality more so is seen as much more sexual than<br />

heterosexuality <strong>and</strong> I can see where you are com<strong>in</strong>g from <strong>in</strong> say<strong>in</strong>g that you could be<br />

worried that you’re a female gay teacher <strong>in</strong> an environment where young women are<br />

gett<strong>in</strong>g changed [//] I fear that the reason you are worried about that is because of what<br />

ignorant parents <strong>and</strong> ignorant other pupils may th<strong>in</strong>k. In actuality do you personally really<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k that that should be an issue?<br />

SJ: Oh no, not, I don’t th<strong>in</strong>k it should be an issue at all. But obviously I know for a fact<br />

that the older girls particularly, if they found out that I was gay, they wouldn’t feel<br />

comfortable me be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> the chang<strong>in</strong>g rooms.<br />

AM: So they sort of equate, you’re gay, we’re young women, you must fancy us.<br />

SJ: Yeah, oh def<strong>in</strong>itely yeah. But then you could also argue that it’s the same th<strong>in</strong>g as <strong>in</strong> a<br />

male member of staff cant go <strong>in</strong>to the female chang<strong>in</strong>g rooms.<br />

AM: Yeah.<br />

SJ: SO, <strong>and</strong> I cant go <strong>in</strong>to the boy’s chang<strong>in</strong>g rooms, so its k<strong>in</strong>d of the same th<strong>in</strong>g isn’t it<br />

like, you automatically assume that if a male walks <strong>in</strong>to a females chang<strong>in</strong>g rooms<br />

they’re <strong>in</strong> their for the wrong reason.

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