Non-Normative Gender and Sexual Identities in Schools: - Schools Out

AM: {that’s exactly what I said to her}
SS: …you do kind of think excuse me, what are you worried about. Yes, I mean you look
at David’s issue and you know he had a rough time in his school, but you know he also
had a process to go through which challenged that.
AM: Yeah.
SS: Which you know is there and I think it is a question of…
AM: {it needs some brave people to come out, like David, doesn’t it, to sort of…
SS: {yeah}
AM: …to say, you know to come out in schools where it, likely may be a problem, not in
fantastic schools like Stoke Newington for example…
SS: {yeah}
AM: …in schools where it may be a problem, in faith schools for example maybe and if
they get problems to do what David did and challenge them, but that…
SS: {that’s right}
AM: …I guess that takes a brave person and as a lot of my friends have said, you know,
as an individual I’m not prepared to take on that challenge, which as you said with Paul’s
death so close seems just heartbreaking.
SS: Yeah, yeah.
AM: But, you can see where they are coming from perhaps.
SS: Well I sort of can, but I think also there’s a very useful analysis [//] have you come
across Gordon Allport’s work?
AM: I haven’t actually no. Gordon Allport.
SS: Gordon Allport. He’s a sociologist, did work in the um, during the Second World
War and looked at why people got into discriminating and prejudice and all the rest of it.
AM: Ok.
SS: Now, if you look on the School Out website, there’s the um triangle um which takes
you through from verbal abuse to genocide.
AM: Yeah.
SS: In, in five easy steps.