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tens of billions of dollars in the budget.<br />

Q: Where would the money go?<br />

MILLER: Well, the figures are generally classified.<br />

Q: I’m talking about on the Senate side. What would be the expenses?<br />

MILLER: <strong>The</strong> expenses <strong>for</strong> the committee? I was talking about the expenses <strong>for</strong> the<br />

nation’s intelligence activities. <strong>The</strong> expenses <strong>for</strong> the committees were, I’d say, regular not<br />

extraordinary, like any committee, mainly the costs of staff <strong>and</strong> office expenses.<br />

Q: You were talking about the oversight of the…<br />

MILLER: No, I was talking about the expenditure of the United States government <strong>for</strong><br />

purposes of intelligence, <strong>and</strong> there the amounts were enormous, <strong>and</strong> the role of the<br />

senators was very important, because here’s a Senate committee – most of whose work is<br />

in secret, so the public never sees it. This is a committee that has no benefits <strong>for</strong> a<br />

politician. On the other h<strong>and</strong> it’s a committee that’s regarded with great respect because<br />

it’s a significant <strong>for</strong>m of power. Senators know what’s going on to the extent that<br />

intelligence can provide that. It’s a bonding of an even smaller group than the 100<br />

senators, who work under very high pressure <strong>and</strong> disciplined circumstances – far higher<br />

presence than anything else they do. So it was <strong>for</strong>ming an organization with a new way of<br />

conducting government business.<br />

Q: Who were the minority <strong>and</strong> majority Senate leaders in this, <strong>for</strong> starters?<br />

MILLER: <strong>The</strong> initial – the first chairman was Dan Inouye.<br />

Q: From Hawaii.<br />

MILLER: From Hawaii, <strong>and</strong> <strong>for</strong> the minority, Barry Goldwater from Arizona, Howard<br />

Baker of Tennessee <strong>and</strong> John Tower of Texas. <strong>The</strong>y were chosen by their respective<br />

conferences, so the parties chose, in fact, the leaders. This is a very important point, that<br />

the leadership of the parties took it very seriously <strong>and</strong> appointed the best people they<br />

could possibly …<br />

Q: I would think in the natural political process – was this a committee to which senators<br />

would aspire or were they picked because someone said, “You really should do this type<br />

thing.”<br />

MILLER: Well, I can discuss the differences between both committees, the investigative<br />

committee <strong>and</strong> the oversight committee. In the investigative committee, senators were<br />

fighting with one another to get on the committee because many of them saw political<br />

advantage to being in a high profile, investigative committee. I would say, almost without<br />

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