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Q: I mean, to – in a way, you are interfering, because here you are acting as a gray<br />

eminence or an open eminence on Gorbachev <strong>and</strong> the ruling party.<br />

MILLER: Yes, it was remarkable. That’s all you can say. It normally would not have<br />

happened. I’ll go further. <strong>The</strong> kinds of things that I was able to do, I mean, I wasn’t alone<br />

but I was one of the few. I helped write the rules of the Supreme Soviet, <strong>and</strong> I did that by<br />

bringing Congressional manuals <strong>for</strong> all of our legislative practice. <strong>The</strong> manuals were used<br />

<strong>and</strong> adapted <strong>for</strong> the Russian condition.<br />

Q: It’s probably about four inches thick.<br />

MILLER: <strong>The</strong> rules of procedure, basically, Jefferson’s rules, I gave the manuals to the<br />

person we had brought here to the United States as a young legislator, Konstantin<br />

Lubenchenko, who became speaker of the Parliament – of the last Supreme Soviet. He<br />

used the manuals, <strong>and</strong> he gave them to another deputy, Eugeniy Velikhov, vice president<br />

of the Academy of Sciences, who was also on the board of the foundation. Velikhov held<br />

the manual up be<strong>for</strong>e all the deputies in the Supreme Soviet <strong>and</strong> up be<strong>for</strong>e the Parliament<br />

<strong>and</strong> said, “<strong>The</strong>se are our new rules.” So, yes, I was a party to that kind of interference.<br />

Some time later, I interviewed all of the justices that were appointed to the new Soviet<br />

constitutional court. I brought a number of Justices here to Washington to meet with our<br />

Justices from our Supreme Court. I saw the Ministers of Justice frequently, along with<br />

lawyers <strong>and</strong> judges I brought from the United States, from the American Bar <strong>Association</strong>.<br />

After Russia <strong>and</strong> the Soviet Union split, the first Minister of Justice of Russia, Nikolai<br />

Federov, was one of the people I brought here. He wanted help in the <strong>for</strong>m of legal<br />

technical assistance. I provided it <strong>for</strong> him. He was a very close friend, <strong>and</strong> still is. He’s<br />

now president of Chuvashia, one of the Tatar republics on the Volga River.<br />

Wile discussing possible nuclear arms limitation proposals, I went to a number of secret<br />

nuclear installations <strong>and</strong> was shown their weaponry. Everything was open, <strong>and</strong> the same<br />

was true of the church <strong>and</strong> every corner of the Academy, every corner of the Supreme<br />

Soviet, the Moscow Duma, every corner of any ministry, including ministry of defense.<br />

<strong>The</strong> battle <strong>for</strong> the survival of the Soviet Union was personified in the rivalry between<br />

Gorbachev <strong>and</strong> Yeltsin. I was there, in the Kremlin, in the Great Hall, when Gorbachev<br />

came back from the coup attempt in August. Yeltsin received him on the stage with such<br />

visible great contempt, at the swearing-in of Yeltsin as president of Russia. I was present<br />

at the trial of the Communist party, which was held in the <strong>for</strong>mer offices of the Central<br />

Committee, which was then being trans<strong>for</strong>med into the offices of the constitutional court.<br />

And I was present at committee meetings of the Supreme Soviet on human rights <strong>and</strong><br />

arms control. A number of my American <strong>and</strong> European colleagues testified at those<br />

committee meetings.<br />

Q: Did you find – what was your impression of our embassy, but also of our White<br />

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