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institutions in-between, the religious structure would be there unless they too were<br />

destroyed. <strong>The</strong> shah’s thinking was he could take care of the religious unrest. He would<br />

wipe them out. What st<strong>and</strong>s in the way, is the growing international <strong>and</strong> internal power of<br />

human rights, which if applied, would limit the ability of the Shah to exterminate the<br />

group. <strong>The</strong> transparency of the society, the growth of a free press <strong>and</strong> more open<br />

comment, education, travel, the desire to have the respect of the West, a longing to be<br />

regarded as a positive world <strong>for</strong>ce in the circles of international power, particularly at the<br />

enthronement of the monarchy, the celebration of 3000 years of monarchy in Persepolis<br />

in 1974.<br />

Q: Did that happen while you were there? When was that?<br />

MILLER: No. That was afterwards.<br />

Q: Did you find while you were there – did you find sort of – were you up against the<br />

Washington establishment? With the government becoming the h<strong>and</strong>-maiden of the<br />

shah…<br />

MILLER: Yes, that was at the core of the policy <strong>and</strong> the intellectual debate. On the desk,<br />

at the Middle East bureau – were real policy pros, <strong>and</strong> they understood what was<br />

happening. Kay Bracken was the desk officer, John Bowling <strong>and</strong> John Stutesman were in<br />

the NEA Bureau as were David Newsome <strong>and</strong> Richard Parker. I’d say the issue of the<br />

shah versus democratic opposition was a permissible debate within the Department. In<br />

the Kennedy years, <strong>and</strong> into Johnson, the NSC was more important than State covering<br />

Iran, but not elsewhere, because of the quality of the Arabists <strong>and</strong> their domination of the<br />

policy debate. Iran policy was an issue in the White House. It was also an issue in<br />

Congress. Iran policy was a big issue in the lobbying community. <strong>The</strong> Iran lobbies had a<br />

very powerful impact in Washington. After the Israelis, I suppose, the Iranians at that<br />

time were the most active, <strong>and</strong> spent the most, <strong>and</strong> got the most out of it. Policy debates<br />

about Iran among the academics, was very lively. Certainly the opposition point of view<br />

was very strongly held in universities where the students were almost without exception<br />

part of the democratic nationalist opposition.<br />

Q: And demonstrating from time to time.<br />

MILLER: Repeatedly, as the end came near. <strong>The</strong> Iranian students were of course engaged<br />

in their own politics.<br />

Q: Who were some of the dominant figures in this Iranian connection in the NSC?<br />

MILLER: At that time?<br />

Q: Yes.<br />

MILLER: <strong>The</strong>re was Walt Rostow <strong>and</strong> the superb Middle East scholar, Bill Polk, who<br />

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