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When Meshkov asked about U.S. assistance, I said, “Yes, we were very interested in<br />

assisting development projects in Crimea, such as water projects <strong>for</strong> the city of Yalta <strong>and</strong><br />

Sevastopol. Mr. Meshkov <strong>and</strong> Mr. Suvorov, we'd be happy to do that as a part of our<br />

assistance to Ukraine," <strong>and</strong> we would work through the government in Kiev. But in the<br />

face of all of this, he was very stoic, <strong>and</strong> very courteous in many ways. I still have a bottle<br />

of Mass<strong>and</strong>ra wine that he presented to me at one of our meetings, that was corked in the<br />

year of my birth. I’m waiting <strong>for</strong> the right occasion to open that bottle of Mass<strong>and</strong>ra wine.<br />

So I saw him from time to time <strong>and</strong> we maintained a reasonably civilized relationship. At<br />

the same time that I met with Meshkov <strong>and</strong> the Ukrainian governor, I also met with the<br />

Tatars. <strong>The</strong> Tatars had been demonstrating in front of the Crimean Parliament building on<br />

the question of representation in the parliament as well as implementation of the right of<br />

return of Tatars from Kazakhstan <strong>and</strong> Uzbekistan.<br />

Q: <strong>The</strong>se were expelled under Stalin.<br />

MILLER: Right, <strong>and</strong> about 450,000 had been <strong>for</strong>cibly deported to Kazakhstan,<br />

Uzbekistan <strong>and</strong> Turkmenistan. Those that had survived <strong>and</strong> were able to return were led<br />

by two Tatars who I knew from meetings in the United States. <strong>The</strong>y had come to the<br />

United States to participate in several human rights conferences when I was President of<br />

the American Committee on U.S.-Soviet Relations. Mustafa Dzhemilev, who was the<br />

leader of the Tatars, <strong>and</strong> Rifat Chubarov, both of whom are now deputies in the Ukrainian<br />

parliament. <strong>The</strong>y are still the leaders of the Tatars in Crimea.<br />

We met again in Kiev. I called on them in turn in Crimea. <strong>The</strong>y showed me their<br />

parliament, Mejles, <strong>and</strong> we toured the many Tatar historic sites together <strong>and</strong> met with the<br />

other Tatar leaders. We had wonderful meals at Tatar restaurants. We had the chance to<br />

review many things. It was the first of many meetings that I had in Simferopol with the<br />

Tatar community. Every time I go to Crimea, I call on, in particular, Mustafa Dzhemilev,<br />

who is a great hero of the human rights movement.<br />

<strong>The</strong> Tatars asked <strong>for</strong> help from the United States in support of their ethnic rights <strong>and</strong> I<br />

was happy to give that. <strong>The</strong> Tatars were asking <strong>for</strong> their rights guaranteed by the<br />

Ukrainian constitution, the UN Charter <strong>and</strong> other international conventions that Ukraine<br />

was a party to. To the credit of both Kravchuk <strong>and</strong> Kuchma, they supported the right of<br />

Tatar return <strong>and</strong> giving to the Tatars full rights as citizens, even though they were very<br />

sensitive to the fact that the Russian-speaking people who had come <strong>and</strong> settled in<br />

Ukraine after the Second World War, particularly in Crimea had taken over their l<strong>and</strong>s<br />

<strong>and</strong> their homes. Most of the population of Crimea had been wiped out, the Russians by<br />

the Nazis, deported in the case of ethnic minorities, or majorities, in the case of the<br />

Tatars, but also Bulgarians, Greeks, Germans, all of the Black Sea ethnic groups.<br />

Q: And Germans, too.<br />

MILLER: Germans, <strong>and</strong> some Jews, a small number of Jews. Germans, certainly who had<br />

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