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Kravchuk <strong>and</strong> the Ukrainian leadership could be believed or not, <strong>and</strong> I said, "This is a<br />

good, acceptable deal," <strong>and</strong> they were skeptical in Washington. <strong>The</strong>y had to come out <strong>and</strong><br />

see it <strong>for</strong> themselves on the ground. And even then, when they came, they were dealing<br />

with this difficulty of negotiations with people like Kravchuk <strong>and</strong> Buteyko <strong>and</strong> Tarasyuk,<br />

who were very suspicious, resentful, defensive, protective, thin skinned, very close to<br />

their dignities <strong>and</strong> we, as representatives of a confident nation, are impatient, <strong>and</strong> as<br />

leaders of a great power we sometimes behave arrogantly, <strong>and</strong> with little or no<br />

magnanimity. Clinton was a personal exception. Clinton was magnificent all the time,<br />

because he understood this feeling of uncertainty on the part of the Ukrainians <strong>and</strong> was<br />

decisive in very important moments by saying <strong>and</strong> conveying the feeling that, "I'm with<br />

you, I'm with you," they got the point.<br />

Clinton further conveyed his own sense of how to approach <strong>and</strong> talk to the Ukrainians, to<br />

his key aides, his advisers <strong>and</strong> his cabinet officers. He said that that's the approach he<br />

wanted. This was the way he saw it, <strong>and</strong> they responded accordingly. So, from the point<br />

of view of presidential help, <strong>for</strong> me, I couldn't be more grateful than I am <strong>for</strong> Clinton's<br />

substantive help. He was terrific in substance, <strong>and</strong> particularly the h<strong>and</strong>ling of<br />

psychological attitude. He knew what was needed. He was absolutely brilliant. I marveled<br />

at how good he was at this important quality of empathy.<br />

Q: Well, were the Russians trying to screw this up by having their officers sitting on these<br />

missiles or not?<br />

MILLER: I think they were trying to hold on to the control of the missiles. But the<br />

Ukrainians had moved so decisively, first to surround, to ring all of the missile silos with<br />

their own troops. <strong>The</strong>y guarded every silo with Ukrainians who had sworn allegiance to<br />

the new Ukraine, <strong>and</strong> were serving under Ukrainian generals; speaking in the Ukrainians<br />

language; it was a constructive coup, really, with the Soviet 43 rd Rocket Army<br />

comm<strong>and</strong>er taking the oath as an Ukrainian; so the apparatus, the line of military<br />

comm<strong>and</strong>, from top to bottom became Ukrainian.<br />

Q: Well, then, were the people we sent out there to supervise this, did you have to make<br />

sure that they were aware of sensitivities <strong>and</strong> all?<br />

MILLER: Sure, but those who were sent to Ukraine were good. I have to say that the help<br />

from the Pentagon, what became CTR (Cooperative Threat Reduction) – that's threat<br />

reduction program – the Nunn-Lugar, were thoughtful, constructive, <strong>and</strong> were real pros.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y had taken advantage of all the work that had been done over decades. <strong>The</strong>y were<br />

extremely responsible <strong>and</strong> careful. I made sure that they didn't go anywhere into the<br />

missile fields until they had briefed me first about what they were going to do, <strong>and</strong> how,<br />

<strong>and</strong> with whom. <strong>The</strong> DOD, CTR delegations always were required when they came to<br />

Ukraine <strong>for</strong> their two weeks or month consultations, to brief me in full be<strong>for</strong>e <strong>and</strong> after<br />

their missions, with authorizing documents <strong>and</strong> reports. I also went to all the nuclear<br />

weapons sites. For example, I was the first American to go inside the Soviet rocket<br />

factory, the <strong>for</strong>mer Soviet rocket factory in Dnepropetrovsk <strong>and</strong> Pavlograd.<br />

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