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Chaney experience, where both his parents were deaf, and the concern with whether the son would be deaf. How does this work out for you? MILLER: It wasn’t a problem at all because New York is so compressed that the isolation of the silent world really doesn’t apply. It was just another language to me, really – two languages actually, that is, sign and being able to read lips and to intuit, I suppose, might also be part of that. I was learning English, of course, and the varieties of American English because New York is such a melting pot – Irish, Italian, German. Those were the major groups I remember, as well as Native New Yorkers – meaning those who had been in New York for at least a generation. But the church was very important for me. Q: Which church was this? MILLER: St. Mark’s Church. Q: Was this the Catholic Church? MILLER: No, St. Marks was an Episcopal church. I had a good voice as a child. I sang in the choir. The church was the center of many of my activities and I was given a scholarship to Trinity School in New York. I was a good athlete, as well as the first in my class all the way through. Q: What sort of athletics? MILLER: I played everything. I was a five letterman in a small school, Trinity, in a different era of physical demands. So I played football, I ran winter track and spring track, I played baseball and basketball. We were very well coached. All our teams did very well. Our basketball team was undefeated in 1948 in a very tough league. I was awarded the Holden Cup given to the best athlete in the school in my senior year. Q: What about at home? This is the era – as a small lad you were there to catch or at least be aware of the Great Depression toward the end. Did this affect your family very much? MILLER: No, I don’t think so because – no, we were never in poverty. We were poor, but never in poverty. My father was always working so there was never that problem that so many had in the thirties and since everyone else I knew was in the same condition it was not seen by me as exceptional. My childhood life growing up was within a city and a community and a world where everyone shared this experience. Q: What about New York being such a cosmopolitan place – did the outside world intrude as far as national politics and international events and all this? MILLER: Oh yes, very definitely, from the beginning. Not only because of the ethnic make up of the city which was heightened, I’d say, by that time, because of tragic events 6
in Europe and the explosion of New York as a city in every way. There were an abundance of newspapers which I saw and read many at the time. I had a radio from my earliest memory so I heard news and music as well. I grew up with WQXR, that music and news station of the New York Times. The schools were very vibrant. The schools I went to had excellent teachers. Q: How did your family fall in the political spectrum? Was this something which you were aware of? MILLER: Oh yes, very much. Since it was in New York City, politics it the time of was LaGuardia, while in national politics it was Roosevelt. Q: This is the liberal Republican and the liberal Democrat. This is very much … MILLER: This was, and I like to think is the mainstream majority of United States. Q: Do you recall Mayor LaGuardia reading the comics? MILLER: I heard him do this on the radio a number of times. I recall even seeing LaGuardia chasing fire engines, things like that. I was at the opening of LaGuardia airport – I went to that occasion when LaGuardia cut the ribbon opening the airport. I remember the first DC-3’s land in great majesty. Q: Oh, yes. Well, you were also there for the World’s Fair in 1939. Trylon and Perisphere or something. MILLER: Perisphere. Q: Perisphere. Did you get out and around New York a lot, I mean the city? MILLER: Yes, I went, as many of my contemporaries did, and explored the city in every way. Buses, subways, bicycle and on foot – I went to every subway stop, explored every neighborhood. Travel throughout the city was encouraged in the schools. The race issue of black versus white was not a problem, even in Harlem. Q: It really was quite a safe city. MILLER: It was – at least I thought so. I became very conversant with every part of the city, every museum, every church, every monument; we even went to polo games on Governor’s Island. Q: Tell me about Trinity School. In the first place, what grades were there, and what years were you there? MILLER: Trinity School is the oldest school in the United States in continuous existence, 7
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sustain his absolutism. That was my
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technical assistance and the secret
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streets. This astounded the nationa
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were the most important, and Bob Ko
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Symington was one of the key people
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a modern state. One could see some
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the difficulties arose was in the n
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That was the policy when I arrived.
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Q: Was the question of authority he
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no policy role, I thought that I re
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fierce guardian secretary, Martha,
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It is a mark of the Senate of this
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Today is the 12 th of December, 200
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smaller than they are now. Everyone
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of everyone. These views were on th
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danger. Cutting people down to size
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very carefully, and with great plea
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Cooper retires and I go as Chief of
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MILLER: Some, say they're taking it
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new Select Committee had to go thro
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MILLER: The Hoover people were stil
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Q: Who? MILLER: Sam Giancana, a mob
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whole, the CIA did its duty. In any
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was doing to me and I set the rules
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MILLER: They were a right-wing terr
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tens of billions of dollars in the
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very difficult then and, of course,
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problems with senators or the staff
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MILLER: The most important informat
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But now, that gap has disappeared f
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national security changed. National
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That's the value of Fletcher, and,
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know this June the Diplomatic Acade
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went to the American Committee on U
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The board was very attractive to me
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President of the American Committee
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survived that, and was now the tuto
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great essay for me, which I treasur
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then. Sakharov wrote a draft of the
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House. This was Reagan - up to ’8
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social revolutionary change. The ch
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MILLER: No. The forces of change ha
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MILLER: Yes. The encouragement of h
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Gorbachev, so Yeltsin was sort of p
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Q: Well, why don't we talk about '9
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peculiar sense of stasis even in th
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members on the International Founda
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MILLER: Yes, but he would have won
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Q: This is tape eight, side one, wi
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Q: Was this an American movement mo
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doing, it was a pretty good paralle
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no one stopped them. They had to do
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MILLER: They sided with the people.
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A very good case in point is how th
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Quartet, from St. Petersburg. They
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MILLER: More or less. In all of the
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Q: Well, then, when did you leave M
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no one did very well; neither the R
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laws explicitly said you can’t ha
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policy going to be, and the articul
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people who had worked with him, lik
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Ridgeway. During the time between t
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My instructions were, number one, g
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(Communist bureaucracy). Q: Who was
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MILLER: The attitude in Washington
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Kravchuk and the Ukrainian leadersh
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that message and saw this policy by
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was surrounded by gorgeous gardens.
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When Meshkov asked about U.S. assis
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Ukraine, a longstanding one, which
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language issue really didn't cause
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most dramatic and most destructive
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now running the new system and were
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are now a part of the political age
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MILLER: Yes, that’s more or less
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utility of setting up FBI liaison w
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Q: This is tape 11, side one, with
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Q: Well, now, when you were there,
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invention, was created to provide a
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that would damage the good relation
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sense. There are Ukrainian national
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Ukrainian language nationalist, whe
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north German plain and so on is a f
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toadies and miscreants of one kind
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ase for me to go back to Ukraine an
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art of the country from the earlies
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only because I'm an example of it,
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Q: Absolutely. There's a little bit
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