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great essay <strong>for</strong> me, which I treasure greatly. This is one of the most important documents<br />

leading to the end of the Cold War. <strong>The</strong> essay is the Russian intelligentsias’ appreciation<br />

of the state the world at the end of the Soviet empire.<br />

Q: How did you find – I hate to use the term – but the interface of I'll call it the Russian<br />

intellectual community, which has always been – there has been a great stream of this<br />

community <strong>and</strong> it appeals to the Russian soul or something, but with the apparatchiks,<br />

the Gorbachevs <strong>and</strong> all who had risen?<br />

MILLER: Gorbachev was different. Earlier, in the Leninist period in Khrushchev's time,<br />

Brezhnev, these were revolutionaries, <strong>and</strong> later the nomenklatura. <strong>The</strong>se were the people<br />

who were fighting the Whites, who were passing out the tracts <strong>and</strong> killing their opponents<br />

<strong>and</strong> sending them to the gulag (<strong>for</strong>ced labor camp). Gorbachev is from the next<br />

generation. He was a younger man, in his 50s. His father had fought in what the Soviets<br />

called the Great Patriotic War. Gorbachev’s family were declared enemies of the people<br />

in 1936. This is an extraordinary background <strong>for</strong> a party first secretary. He was a different<br />

kind than the first two generations of Soviets.<br />

All of the perestroika group were different from the earlier Soviet leaders. In a reuse, it<br />

was the third generation challenging <strong>and</strong> fighting against the second generation. <strong>The</strong><br />

second generation were still revolutionaries. <strong>The</strong> third generation had not been<br />

revolutionaries. <strong>The</strong>y were sons of revolutionaries or they were sons of people who were<br />

knowledgeable about the revolution. So there was a generational distinction. Gorbachev<br />

didn't fight in the war, he was too young. His father did.<br />

Sakharov was older. He was not a veteran of the wars, but he was certainly a veteran of<br />

the scientific ef<strong>for</strong>t in the war as the inventor of the H-Bomb. He was a very young<br />

scientist at that point. But Gorbachev himself was a giant of the world of the mind.<br />

Gorbachev has a very interesting intellect, not of the world of the intelligentsia, in the<br />

Russian sense, but he could have been a member of the intelligentsia were he born in the<br />

fourth generation. But <strong>for</strong> a Soviet leader, he certainly had more education than his<br />

predecessors, coming up from the roots. He was trained in the law, he had studied<br />

comparative law, <strong>and</strong> had a good mind, was interested intellectually in a broad variety of<br />

subjects <strong>and</strong> had respect <strong>for</strong> other intellects.<br />

Q: Well, now, your group, committee, in this, what was the role of your group? Did you<br />

set up these conferences?<br />

MILLER: Yes, we did. We worked with Gorbachev's people, closely, to prepare these<br />

meetings. We prepared <strong>for</strong> board meetings by going into the Kremlin to work out the<br />

agenda. We discussed when Gorbachev would be available <strong>and</strong> when it would be<br />

convenient to have meetings <strong>and</strong> they wanted to be the host. <strong>The</strong> Kremlin was the host. In<br />

some ways, this was a strange group – can you imagine Father Hesburgh <strong>and</strong> Robert<br />

McNamara <strong>and</strong> Metropolitan Pitirim meeting together in the Kremlin? <strong>The</strong> president of<br />

Greenpeace, David McTaggart, was there, <strong>and</strong> a number of the world’s leading<br />

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