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Q: <strong>The</strong>n we’ll go on to what you did after the transition worked its way out, <strong>and</strong> I haven’t<br />

asked you about how the transition team, in your particular aspect, fit with the State<br />

Department <strong>and</strong> CIA <strong>and</strong> all, were there any problems, <strong>and</strong> that sort of thing. So we’ll<br />

pick it up then.<br />

MILLER: Yes, all right.<br />

Q: Today is the twelfth of March, 2004. Bill, just to reprise a bit – who composed the<br />

transition team to the State Department?<br />

***<br />

MILLER: Well, the key players in the State Department transition team, I would say,<br />

were Tony Lake, Richard Moose, Leon Fuerth, Warren Christopher, <strong>and</strong> Brian Atwood.<br />

<strong>The</strong>se were all significant figures in previous administrations. <strong>The</strong>y had held high<br />

positions in <strong>for</strong>eign affairs. <strong>The</strong> transition team of Clinton, just as other president’s<br />

transition teams, was also composed of people who were involved in the campaign, so<br />

they were really political operatives. A number were office-seekers who had a place in the<br />

transition which they carved <strong>for</strong> themselves, in many cases, because of money given or<br />

services rendered during a campaign not because of experience or skills or ability in<br />

<strong>for</strong>eign affairs. <strong>The</strong>n there were the bureaucratic professionals, who were expected to<br />

continue to hold key positions in the new administration. <strong>The</strong> transition team I just<br />

described were in charge of putting together the policy papers <strong>for</strong> the new president <strong>and</strong><br />

the new administration, <strong>and</strong> to draw up lists of personnel who would be appointed by the<br />

president to key positions.<br />

It was very free-<strong>for</strong>m – one could not say it was an orderly process. It was governed by<br />

the collegiality <strong>and</strong> com<strong>for</strong>table familiarity of many of the individuals involved. <strong>The</strong>re is,<br />

in this sense, a continuity in our political system, even in <strong>for</strong>eign affairs <strong>and</strong> defense. <strong>The</strong><br />

people who go into policy work tend to do it <strong>for</strong> a lifetime, even if there are interruptions<br />

because of change of party <strong>and</strong> changes of direction in individual professions. So this was<br />

not a group of people without experience. <strong>The</strong>y were extremely experienced, <strong>and</strong> were<br />

able to draw on an enormous reservoir of experienced people. <strong>The</strong> non-governmental<br />

world is characterized by the think tanks, which are, in some respects, holding places <strong>for</strong><br />

people who would like to be running things in government <strong>and</strong> have done so in the past.<br />

It was the place of lawyers, who were involved in legal work on international matters, or<br />

they were doing legal work in campaigns. <strong>The</strong> Council on <strong>Foreign</strong> Relations in New York<br />

<strong>and</strong> Washington is another holding place, as are the faculties <strong>and</strong> institutes in the major<br />

universities. If you had to give numbers, there were several thous<strong>and</strong> people who were<br />

milling about in the transition, most, of course, were on the fringes hoping to break into<br />

the inner circles.<br />

<strong>The</strong> transition had two major categories. First, personnel – that is, who was going to be<br />

appointed to what position, <strong>and</strong> how they were to be vetted. <strong>The</strong> second was, what is the<br />

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