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national security changed. National security became a patriotic value, even if<br />

unexamined. It was unpatriotic to question or even examine the given idea of national<br />

security, that the tilt was now in that direction, whereas in the immediate post-Vietnam<br />

period, the issue of national security was constantly examined: What is it? Don't sell me<br />

bill of goods. What is it? How am I secure? What price am I paying <strong>for</strong> my security?<br />

<strong>The</strong>y were asking these kinds of questions everywhere in Congress, in universities, in the<br />

press, in the churches. With Reagan, the questions were not asked, rather than acceptance<br />

there was optimism: "Don't ask questions about national security. I'm telling you it's<br />

national security. Trust me. It's sunshine, <strong>and</strong> we have to get over the syndrome of<br />

examining ourselves. We have to value these American ideals again." That was a change<br />

in mentality by the very people whose views on these matters were questioned, so they<br />

came back in, they're saying, "You question our values? We're here again, we're back in<br />

power now. Our values are now dominant."<br />

I daresay that's been the pattern since Vietnam, back <strong>and</strong> <strong>for</strong>th, back <strong>and</strong> <strong>for</strong>th on this<br />

issue of whether our values can be examined <strong>and</strong> still be a patriot. That's the issue now.<br />

Q: At the time, I'm talking about really just be<strong>for</strong>e you left the committee staff, was there<br />

concern about Reagan, who was coming in from pretty far right on the political<br />

spectrum, that this is going to change what you all were doing?<br />

MILLER: Yes, there was a concern, of course, but there was also a belief that the<br />

statutory base could not be reversed, which proved to be largely correct, that the threshold<br />

of required awareness had been raised irrevocably. <strong>The</strong> key to the issues that we were<br />

contending with depended on in<strong>for</strong>med awareness, <strong>and</strong> while that might vary a few<br />

degrees in one direction or another, the threshold had been raised sufficiently to never go<br />

back to the past where the president could say, "I know this, nobody else should know it,<br />

trust me."<br />

Q: During the Reagan administration, you had the Ollie North, Iran-Contra, which was<br />

proof of this, that, in a way, by the time you were with this oversight committee, also<br />

hadn't sort of almost a generational change – I mean, the World War II operative OSS<br />

types <strong>and</strong> all had left? I mean, a new, more intellectual apparatchik had appeared in our<br />

intelligence.<br />

MILLER: Yes, I think that's the case. <strong>The</strong> first two generations of intelligence operatives,<br />

as well as <strong>Foreign</strong> Service officers, as well as legislators, had passed from the scene. This<br />

was the beginning of a post-Vietnam generation. And, <strong>for</strong> Reagan <strong>and</strong> Reagan's people,<br />

confronted with the dramatic change in the Soviet Union, you were having a thorough,<br />

radical change, where the threat disappears, <strong>and</strong> a very valuable political tool, the threat is<br />

lost. <strong>The</strong> Reagan period is so interesting, Reagan himself, but even the neocons who came<br />

with him were faced with this conceptual problem of how to deal with a disappeared<br />

threat. Of course, they found more threats.<br />

I've asked myself the question repeatedly, "If a different president had been in place on<br />

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