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Q: Yes.<br />

MILLER: Well, gradually, all of the impediments to access to the in<strong>for</strong>mation we sought<br />

were removed <strong>and</strong> we believe we were able to do serious research <strong>and</strong> inquiry based on<br />

plausibly complete in<strong>for</strong>mation. <strong>The</strong> committee, both staff <strong>and</strong> senators, decide to divide<br />

the work into two parts: first, those who are interested in pursuing abuse, investigate<br />

assassinations <strong>and</strong> overthrows, of leaders like Allende.<br />

Q: Allende.<br />

MILLER: Allende, Lumumba, all of the classic cases. <strong>The</strong> station chiefs from Chile,<br />

Congo <strong>and</strong> those in charge of such activities were brought in <strong>for</strong> questioning, <strong>and</strong> of<br />

course when Castro <strong>and</strong> Kennedy appeared in the records, the issues became charged<br />

politically <strong>and</strong> I'd say that was the most delicate part of the investigation, because they<br />

were so charged politically.<br />

Q: And you also had Senator Edward Kennedy around, too.<br />

MILLER: No, he wasn't on the committee, but he certainly was interested. Many senators<br />

were, of course, interested in Kennedy's girlfriends <strong>and</strong> the connection with the Mob,<br />

Sam Giancana <strong>and</strong> his girlfriend <strong>and</strong> the White House trysts <strong>and</strong> all of that. You can<br />

imagine how charged that was, <strong>and</strong> somehow we kept it contained. Barry Goldwater had<br />

a very important role, <strong>and</strong> Howard Baker, in knowing about it but not using it politically.<br />

And Goldwater's approach to all of this, his philosophical view was – I won't say<br />

philosophy, I'd say his opinion <strong>and</strong> his dogmatism was that, "All presidents did these<br />

things. It was necessary <strong>for</strong> the security of the United States, <strong>and</strong> that's enough. That was<br />

it. <strong>The</strong>y're all the same. We have to respect the president, <strong>and</strong> that's it."<br />

<strong>The</strong> others had some immediate partisan interests. Others were just interested personally<br />

in some voyeuristic peering, you might say, but most were very disciplined among all of<br />

these matters. But seeing the underworld was really something, but extremely dangerous,<br />

too. It was dangerous to the underworld people. When our group of underworld figures<br />

came to testify, they put large paper bags on their heads. <strong>The</strong> paper bags with cut-out eye<br />

holes were so comic. <strong>The</strong>re was cartoon I remember, I guess it was a Washington Post<br />

Herblock cartoon, that shows the committee sitting at the table <strong>and</strong> in comes a man with a<br />

paper bag over his head <strong>and</strong> all of the senators are pictured as rushing to duck under the<br />

table. As it happened, three of the witnesses that came <strong>for</strong> testimony were disposed of<br />

later by the Mob.<br />

Q: Oh.<br />

MILLER: Yes, it was dangerous <strong>for</strong> them. After their testimony, several met violent<br />

deaths. One mobster was found in pieces stuffed into a barrel floating in Miami Bay. Sam<br />

Giancana was one of these gangsters.<br />

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