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Q: Who?<br />

MILLER: Sam Giancana, a mobster from Chicago who attempted one of the<br />

assassinations of Castro. I recall his testimony be<strong>for</strong>e the committee when he was asked<br />

about his attempted assassination. <strong>The</strong> chairman asked, "So why did you do these things?<br />

Did you get paid by the CIA?" Giancana replies, "No." <strong>The</strong> chairman the asked, "Well,<br />

why did you do it?" Giancana, pulled himself up with a look of offended dignity <strong>and</strong> said<br />

in clipped tones, "It was my patriotic duty."<br />

Q: Did you, looking at the various assassination, coup attempts, destabilizing this, were<br />

you also looking at this – as somebody looking at this thing, were these things really<br />

effective, or really advancing the cause?<br />

MILLER: Well, I said the committee divided itself into two parts. One was investigative,<br />

the hunting ground of litigators <strong>and</strong> trial lawyers who were looking to say "guilty," or "not<br />

guilty." My colleague, Fritz Schwartz, who was a superb litigator, a good friend, h<strong>and</strong>led<br />

many of the hearings on those subjects. <strong>The</strong> majority of senators <strong>and</strong> I wanted to deal<br />

with the constitutional issues concerning the authority <strong>for</strong> secret activities, the substance<br />

of intelligence activities, the evaluation of its quality <strong>and</strong> what should be done with the<br />

intelligence agencies in the future. We researched <strong>and</strong> evaluated all intelligence activity in<br />

the United States from the time of the Revolutionary War, but with a particular emphasis<br />

since the <strong>for</strong>mation of the CIA, 1945 up to 1975, <strong>and</strong> governmental activities that were<br />

normal categories of intelligence collection, counterintelligence, analysis, <strong>and</strong> technical<br />

means. We were able to carry out a rigorous top to bottom the survey of intelligence<br />

broadly construed, that would be of service to the president <strong>and</strong> the United States, the<br />

congress <strong>and</strong> in the end as a benefit to our people <strong>and</strong> our country.<br />

So, the approaches were legality, utility, needs, what is needed to do a good job? Who<br />

does the best job? Is the organization properly structured to do a good job? Should it be<br />

revamped, recreated, reinvented? That was the main work of the committee. We came out<br />

with conclusion that the best political reporting came from the State Department; that<br />

much of the cl<strong>and</strong>estine activity was destructive; <strong>and</strong> that a good part of the highly touted<br />

cl<strong>and</strong>estinely gathered intelligence material was not in fact of great value; that the<br />

National Technical Means were the best sources of in<strong>for</strong>mation on nuclear questions; that<br />

there had been a huge misstep in developing paramilitary capability at the expense of<br />

traditional humint intelligence.<br />

Q: Would this be Bay of Pigs-type things, or Vietnam/Bay of Pigs?<br />

MILLER: All of the coups had heavy paramilitary aspects. <strong>The</strong>re may have been utility<br />

during the Vietnam <strong>and</strong> Cuba episodes, but that the fact that these large paramilitary<br />

structures lingered long after their original missions distorted later missions of<br />

particularly the CIA <strong>and</strong> the military intelligence agencies. This is where Edward Wilson<br />

comes from, with his pearl h<strong>and</strong>led pistols that world of paramilitary soldiers of <strong>for</strong>tune,<br />

the one who was just pardoned.<br />

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