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Moscow, meeting with the Sakharovs, <strong>and</strong> I recall their discussions about what the new<br />

order could be <strong>for</strong> the Soviet Union.<br />

<strong>The</strong> whole idea of self determination, which was implicit, didn't exclude being sovereign,<br />

but within a changed Soviet Union – a democratic Soviet Union. It was a very real hope –<br />

that is, the possibility of a democratic Soviet Union. <strong>The</strong> chance <strong>for</strong> a democratic Soviet<br />

Union is challenged by the drive to create an independent Russia. Yeltsin, as you<br />

remember, championed the independence movement of Russia. His motivations I would<br />

say were primarily personal. Yeltsin wanted to break the power of Gorbachev, his sworn<br />

enemy. I don't think it was the highest of motives. At the same time, many members of<br />

the Supreme Soviet were also elected to the Russian Parliament, so they served, <strong>for</strong> a<br />

time, in the legislature in both places. In the opinion of most political observers of the<br />

time, the very best, the most talented were those who decided to stay with the Soviet<br />

Union. I thought so too. <strong>The</strong>y said our highest duty is with the Soviet Union. We can't<br />

serve two masters <strong>and</strong> it doesn't make any sense.<br />

It was very clear at the time, that the quality of the people in Supreme Soviet, the last<br />

Supreme Soviet, was far higher than those who made up the new Russian Parliament. I<br />

knew many of the legislators who served in both, <strong>and</strong> I would say the very best stayed,<br />

mistakenly, as it turned out, in the Supreme Soviet.<br />

That crucial period in Moscow was extraordinarily hopeful from the point of view of the<br />

possibilities of constructing a new Europe, a new world after the failed experiment of the<br />

Communist Party. Russia lost its direction when it lost Sakharov. I can't emphasize how<br />

important he was. He was able to lead <strong>and</strong> have effect on people like Havel in Prague, or<br />

Lech Walesa in Pol<strong>and</strong>.<br />

Q: In Pol<strong>and</strong>?<br />

MILLER: Yes, yes, <strong>and</strong> within the Soviet states. I would say once the Sakharov’s moral<br />

<strong>and</strong> intellectual leadership was gone <strong>and</strong> there was a divided struggle <strong>for</strong> power between<br />

Yeltsin <strong>and</strong> Gorbachev, the impetus <strong>for</strong> self determination, independent states, gained<br />

sway, <strong>and</strong> that was really the end. <strong>The</strong> coup attempt was very symptomatic. <strong>The</strong> coup was<br />

the last gasp, a last-ditch ef<strong>for</strong>t by a military coup, by those who wanted t keep the Soviet<br />

Union together.<br />

Q: How did your organization <strong>and</strong> you see, first place, developments prior to the coup?<br />

Was this euphoric, more or less, or were you doing anything, passing on in<strong>for</strong>mation?<br />

MILLER: We were just as active after the coup as be<strong>for</strong>e in working in the parliaments of<br />

both of these structures, <strong>and</strong> in the new ministries of Russia, particularly the Ministry of<br />

Justice, while at the same time the existing Soviet structures were in place. <strong>The</strong>re was a<br />

kind of joint responsibility of many of those who were Russian <strong>and</strong> those from outside<br />

who were really helping both places, because it was all seen at that time as useful. But,<br />

certainly, there was an overall sense of waiting, waiting <strong>for</strong> the decision. <strong>The</strong>re was a<br />

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