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Ridgeway. During the time between the end of the Reagan administration <strong>and</strong> the<br />
beginning of Bush One administration, George Schultz, Roz was saying – <strong>and</strong> she was<br />
assistant secretary <strong>for</strong> European affairs – she said she knew James Baker did not have<br />
any contact with George Schultz during that time. It was enough so that people got the<br />
feeling that – I mean, this was the same administration, but it was, let’s say, a distant<br />
relationship.<br />
MILLER: That’s often the case, but that doesn’t mean they’re not aware of each other’s<br />
doings or activities. <strong>The</strong> calling in of your predecessors is not normal in our practice,<br />
except in “wise man” exercises where you bring in several preceding generations of<br />
leadership in order to give public, visible legitimacy to what you’re doing, <strong>and</strong> hope that<br />
you gain popular support <strong>for</strong> a tough decision, something that requires consensus. Well,<br />
that certainly hasn’t happened in the present administration.<br />
Q: You took over – catch me up on this, I still belong to the old school <strong>and</strong> I keep talking<br />
about the Ukraine rather than Ukraine, which I’m sure is an annoyance <strong>for</strong> people who<br />
are Ukrainians or serve there, now. Anyway – when you went to Ukraine – in the first<br />
place you were there from when to when?<br />
MILLER: I served as ambassador from the early fall of ’93 into ’98.<br />
Q: What were our primary concerns when you went out there?<br />
MILLER: <strong>The</strong> primary concern was the disposition of the third largest nuclear arsenal in<br />
the world. ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) aimed at the United States in<br />
sufficient number with the capability <strong>and</strong> invulnerability to destroy the United States<br />
many times over. <strong>The</strong> control of those weapons was very much an issue. Who owned<br />
them? Did the new Ukraine own them, did Moscow own them? <strong>The</strong> Ukrainian<br />
government said they had the right, as a successor state, to all objects on their territory,<br />
<strong>and</strong> they persisted in this, as was their right under any underst<strong>and</strong>ing of the rights of<br />
successor states. However, at the beginning of independence, the missile silo fields, the<br />
deployment made by the 43 rd Rocket Army, were under the control of Russian<br />
comm<strong>and</strong>ers, even though the Ukrainians asserted their right, very quickly. We did not<br />
know, but it was the case, as I found out, that the Ukrainization of the 43 rd Rocket Army<br />
was one of their first priorities, <strong>and</strong> this process of takeover went very rapidly to take over<br />
control. <strong>The</strong> 43 rd Rocket Army was comm<strong>and</strong>ed by a general named Mikhtiuk who was<br />
an ethnic Ukrainian, became a Ukrainian general in the newly <strong>for</strong>med army. He became<br />
the comm<strong>and</strong>er of the 43 rd Rocket Army of Ukraine, <strong>and</strong> even though the officers …<br />
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Q: Yes.<br />
MILLER: Even though the officers in the chain of comm<strong>and</strong> of the 43 rd Rocket Army in<br />
the silos believed that they were under Moscow control, <strong>and</strong> indeed sets of codes <strong>and</strong><br />
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