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Coincidance - Principia Discordia

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186 COINCIDANCE<br />

independence. There was a liberation war here, between 1918 and 1921,<br />

just like your American Revolution, We had to resist the British army of<br />

occupation in our cities, just as you did, in order to achieve national<br />

independence.<br />

Why did you stay in the l.R.A. after the Irish Free Stale was formed in 1922?<br />

Many of us could not accept the terms of the London Treaty of 1921,<br />

particularly in regard to the partition of Ireland. We also objected to the fact<br />

that the Free State was made part of the British Commonwealth and<br />

members of the Dail hEirann had to sign an oath of allegiance to British<br />

monarch. In our opinion, that oath made it legally impossible for the Free<br />

State to continue the struggle for Irish independence and unity.<br />

And why did you quit the l.R.A. in 1937?<br />

The whole situation had changed by then. DeValera had accomplished so<br />

much in his first five years as Taoiseach (Chief Executive) that armed struggle<br />

was neither necessary nor desirable; it was counter-productive. The<br />

abolition of the oath of allegiance, which he had accomplished by then, made<br />

it possible for complete independence to be achieved by legal means, as in<br />

fact happened in 1947. I also belive the re-unification of Ireland can be<br />

accomplished without further armed struggle.<br />

How many times were you sentenced and imprisoned, by the way?<br />

I was never sentenced. I was imprisoned without trial by the British in<br />

1918 and 1919 and by the Free State in 1922 and 1930.<br />

Some Irish-American readers will be interested in this: Is it true that when DeValera<br />

Dail hEirann in 1927, he signed the oath of allegiance to the British monarch but refuse<br />

put his hand on the Bible, and thereby in his own mind nullified the oath?<br />

I believe that is true, yes.<br />

You are still fiercely opposed to the partition of Ireland?<br />

Absolutely.<br />

Where does the question of armed struggle come into it? You say that it is no longer n<br />

or desirable in Ireland but you have said that some wars of liberation are justified. Whe<br />

draw the line?<br />

I'm not a Quaker and I'm not an absolute pacifist. I believe that in certain<br />

circumstances you have the right to use violence to defend yourself. This<br />

applies to peoples as well as individuals. If a government pursues a policy<br />

that threatens to reduce a whole people to servitude or to exterminate<br />

them, they have the right to resist violence with violence. But even there,<br />

you see, I would say that they may only resort to violence when no other<br />

means remains open to them, when there is literally no legal recourse. For

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