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16-17 Haziran 2010 the shape and the space and the volume of the areas where you actually planting as well. Because these are plants are like people, you know they like to have other plants around them. We were talking with Brigette earlier about her balcony and the plants are actually dying because I suspect there maybe 1, 2 3 plants on a balcony, perhaps they weren't watered or they might have been over watered. And they say, "I can't cope with this. Because I'd much rather be in a forest, or in, you know, somewhere in the deep countryside". So I think you have to create an overall environment that gives you the conditions that plants enjoy, that needs moisture, not so much stress. Good growing conditions, good soil, good irrigation, good nutrition, and you also have to consider the build up of salts in the soil. So it is actually quite a complex equation to get it to work. And then you might say in 5-10 years' time, you have to change all the plants. You take them up, put some new ones in. But then you would do this anyway, in a park or in a garden. You move plants, you change them, and so on. So I think it is not a fix thing - a plant. It grows, it dies. So, it is a.... Tony Phillipson: Would you say that conditions of extreme variety between the north and south actually decide you might actually have a completely different mix on the same floor between two sides? David O'Brien: That is possible. Yes, that is very possible. Tony Phillipson: It's a bit of a follow up question. You have shown us many attractive pictures there of high rise buildings absolutely festuned with plants, a lot of them tend to be in what I might call rather lush climates like Panama or Singapore and so on. Do you think that kind of buildings applicable in Europe, in Istanbul, for example? Jan Dikema: In Europe, my guess is the needs hasn't yet arisen for these sorts of spaces in Northern Europe. Because, northern Europe still has a lot of empty space. And then I suspect, say, in Istanbul where you have very little open space, you have a strong need to get people close to plants. I mean there are one or two parks which I have seen here. There are some nice corner areas. To be honest, if you have got kids and, you know everyday you Gayrimenkul <strong>Zirve</strong>si 10 want your kids to play somewhere, you have got to provide the play area. If that play area is on the 60th floor, then you got to provide someone to look after those kids. They have got to be happy. They have got to buy an ice cream. They have got to play football. All these things are important in any space, any green space whether it is on the top floor or on the ground. So, we need to think of in terms of greater complexity. This is the same ability in terms of what the community needs in these spaces. Tony Phillipson: I see we have run past a lot of time but I have got one general question. That is for each member of the panel. If you had to sum up one principal difference in your field of expertise between designing a level mid rise building and an ultra high rise building, what would that be? You have another chance to think about that one. That was from the audience. So, who is ready? David O'Brien: One's higher one's lower I think. No, but, seriously, one is a lot more expensive and there is a greater need to provide the alternative environment when you get high. So, you know, you are up there, you do need a balcony. I mean I lived in Germany for a number of years in Aachen which is a dense city just like well not as big as Istanbul. We had a balcony. we kept a rabbit on the balcony. The rabbit lived in the flat, run around. We had plants on the balcony. We had a little yard where the children played. And - as I said before, you have got to provide those things at high rise. So I think we are not quite there yet, but I think we are getting there, because we need to, because cities are so big. We need to provide the spaces. Gerhard Haidinger: Yes, I mean the lucky situation that I live in Austria, on the countryside. So I have my own garden and everything, and I have not yet experienced to live in high rise residential building. So I am quite happy to live on the countryside in Austria. -- For me, in our work, one of the main differences I think is in the high rise or at least in our experience so far, a lot of our energy goes into finding the right engineering solutions, both in structure, in infrastructures, in all the transport. And to a much higher extent, one would be involved in low rise even though if we were talking about the same number of main, same volume of housing. We would be looking at spending more time in the design of space, design of green spaces etc. OK. Now, I notice we only have a few minutes left of our time. I would just like to ask, and turn to the audience members and ask if perhaps you have any questions you like to ask our panelists. OK. I think perhaps we have answered, most of them, I think that's a compliment to our speakers. I would like to make a special note of thanks to our speakers, Jan, Gerhard and David, for the most interesting views on the subject of high rise living. And also to all of you in the audience for joining us today. I sincerely hope you have found the panel of interest. Once again, I would like to invite you to the FYP stand nearby to talk to any of the panel in more detail. Thank you once again. I am also asked to remind everyone that there will be gala reception upstairs in a few moments. Thank you very much indeed and good afternoon. 103 GYODER
Kentsel Dönüflüm ‹le Sa¤l›kl› Kentler Faruk Göksu Kentsel Strateji, Kurucu Ortak, fiehir Planc›s› Evet panelimize hoflgeldiniz. Bir saatlik süre içerisinde befl konuflmac›m›z var. Konumuzu biliyorsunuz. Kentsel dönüflüm ve sa¤l›kl› kentler. Konuflmac›lar›m›z, üç tane kamudan, kamu yönetiminden, yerel yönetimden, belediye baflkanlar›m›z var, belediye yöneticilerimiz ve özel sektörden arkadafllar›m›z var. Ben fazla konuflmayaca¤›m. Süremizi zaman›nda bitirmemiz gerekiyor. ‹lk sözü Lviv Belediye Baflkan›m›za verece¤im. Say›n Baflkan Lviv kentindeki yapm›fl oldu¤u çal›flmalar› ve kentsel dönüflüm yaklafl›mlar›n› anlatacak. Konuflmac›lar›m›za onar dakika süre veriyorum. Malesef 8. Dakikada uyarmak zorunday›m. Son 2 dakikada da toparlayacaklar. Son 5 dakikam›z› da sorularla de¤erlendirece¤iz. Buyurun say›n baflkan. Andry Sadovyy Lviv Belediye Baflkan› ‹yi günler. Ben Lviv belediye baflkan›y›m. fiu anda ekranda Euro 2012 amblemini görebilirsiniz, logosunu. 2012 y›l›nda Avrupa Futbol flampiyonas› yap›lacak. Lviv nüfusu 850.000 kifli. fiu anda Lviv'in Avrupa flehirleriyle ba¤lant›lar› görebilirsiniz. Bunlar direk ba¤lant›lar. Haftada iki defa direk istanbul-Lviv uçak seferleri var. Lviv flehrinden Avrupa s›n›r›na kadar 80 kilometrelik yol var. Lviv üzerinden iki transport koridor geçiyor. fiehir UNESCO korumas› alt›nda bulunuyor. Lviv Ukrayna'n›n kültür baflkenti. Geçen sene bizi 1 milyon turist ziyaret etti. Ukrayna'n›n kültürü Lviv'de bulunuyor. Afla¤› yukar› y›lda 100 civar› uluslararas› festival düzenleniyor Lviv'de. Lviv'de çok güzel kafeler, barlar, restoranlar var. Dünyan›n mutfa¤›n›n tad›na bakabilirsiniz. Biliyorum ki Türkler futbolu çok seviyorlar. Ukrayna'n›n tarihinde ilk futbol maç› Lviv'de yap›lm›flt›. 1884 y›l›nda yap›lm›flt›. Dünyan›n çok meflhur mimarlar› bu flehri infla etmifllerdi. Lausanne otelcilik okulunun yapt›¤› araflt›rmay› görebilirsiniz flu anda. fiu anda turizm sektörü çok olumlu bir flekilde gelifliyor fakat kaliteli otellere ihtiyac›m›z var. 104 GYODER Gayrimenkul <strong>Zirve</strong>si 10 16-17 Haziran 2010 Turizme yapmak isteyenler için önemli bir konu çünkü biz, ben özellikle flehir belediye baflkan› olarak çok destekliyorum bu konuyu. Siz gelin yat›r›m yap›n. Bizim çok güzel arsalar›m›z var, oteller için müsait. Dünyaca meflhur Monitor Grup flirketiyle bir çal›flma yapm›flt›k. Genel olarak flehrin turizm için nas›l elveriflli olaca¤›n›
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