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Strengthening the <strong>G20</strong> system<br />

IN CONVERSATION<br />

Several<br />

advocates<br />

have proposed<br />

designing a<br />

blue economy<br />

framework<br />

The Right Honourable Paul Martin, former Prime Minister<br />

of Canada, talks to John Kirton about globalisation, multilateral<br />

agreements and conserving the ocean and coastal resources<br />

Q You have been quoted as saying that<br />

making globalisation work for all must<br />

be the goal of the <strong>G20</strong>. Is this realistic<br />

when so many are left out of the benefits<br />

globalisation brings?<br />

A While inequality within and between<br />

countries is real and must be dealt with,<br />

increased globalisation is inevitable. The<br />

issue is not whither globalisation but how to<br />

deal with its consequences.<br />

From economic interdependence to<br />

the spread of disease, from threats to<br />

food security to climate change, the most<br />

pressing realities the world faces are ones no<br />

borders can withstand. These are issues that<br />

require responses beyond what even the<br />

most powerful governments can provide.<br />

Making globalisation work in a world<br />

where a self-defeating inward nationalism<br />

is making itself felt politically provides the<br />

<strong>G20</strong> with one of its greatest challenges.<br />

Q You have said that strengthening the<br />

great multilateral institutions is important<br />

if globalisation is to work for all. Why?<br />

A All too often the great multilateral<br />

institutions are the only bodies capable<br />

of reconciling national interests with the<br />

global good. Adequately funded and well<br />

conceived, they are the optimum vehicles<br />

by which specific issues can be dealt with<br />

sustainably. This is as true for the World<br />

Health Organization or the United Nations<br />

High Commissioner for Refugees as it is for<br />

the International Monetary Fund. Leading<br />

the charge to strengthen those institutions,<br />

which have universal membership, must be<br />

a <strong>G20</strong> priority. It is upon this that much of<br />

the <strong>G20</strong>’s legitimacy rests.<br />

Q Do you still think the creation of<br />

the Financial Stability Board and the<br />

London Summit were two of the <strong>G20</strong>’s<br />

greatest successes?<br />

A Yes, but the <strong>G20</strong> cannot rest on<br />

its laurels.<br />

The Financial Stability Board (FSB) was<br />

created out of the ashes of the Financial<br />

Stability Forum (FSF), which was an earlier<br />

initiative of the G7 finance ministers. As<br />

we know only too well and maybe are<br />

learning once again, there are few economic<br />

consequences as great as those that flow<br />

from financial sector failure.<br />

When you consider the damage arising<br />

from small grains of sand in the global<br />

banking system – the early reluctance of<br />

Europeans to impose stress tests on their<br />

banks, the constant pushback from the<br />

financial industry in the United States and<br />

the rapid growth of China’s shadow banks<br />

– the FSB should have full treaty status and<br />

full universal membership, giving it the<br />

weight it requires to be the fourth pillar of<br />

the global economic architecture.<br />

As far as the London Summit is<br />

concerned, eight years ago it prevented a<br />

trade war that could have led to a 1930s-type<br />

depression. Today, given the mounting<br />

pressures on the globe’s national economies<br />

and the World Trade Organization’s (WTO’s)<br />

recent warning that protectionist measures<br />

are being reintroduced at an accelerating<br />

rate, the <strong>G20</strong> must now re-engage.<br />

Q Are new multilateral initiatives needed?<br />

A Yes. For example, while last year’s Paris<br />

commitment on climate change should be<br />

applauded, there are other areas where the<br />

climate change consequences are evident<br />

but no action has been taken.<br />

The acidification of the global ocean<br />

– the world’s largest carbon sink – was<br />

ignored at Paris. This was short sighted<br />

given the extensive damage that continues<br />

to be wrought by the impacts of climate<br />

change, not to mention overfishing, habitat<br />

destruction, pollution and declining<br />

biodiversity. Despite the ocean’s poor<br />

state of health and the distinct lack of a<br />

236 <strong>G20</strong> China: The Hangzhou Summit • September 2016 G7<strong>G20</strong>.com

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