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Growing the global economy<br />
Thomas A Bernes<br />
Former director, IMF's Independent Evaluation Office<br />
IN CONVERSATION<br />
Structural<br />
reforms are<br />
necessary, but<br />
are politically<br />
very difficult<br />
Q How fragile is global economic growth<br />
at present?<br />
Thomas A Bernes Once again, the<br />
International Monetary Fund (IMF)<br />
is expected to downgrade its growth<br />
forecasts. Europe has many problems,<br />
compounded by the Brexit vote in the<br />
United Kingdom and banking sector<br />
issues in Italy. There are concerns about<br />
the slowdown in China and the fragility<br />
of its financial sector. The risks seem to<br />
be predominantly on the down side and<br />
starting from a very weak base of growth.<br />
Robert Fauver The Organisation for<br />
Economic Co-operation and Development<br />
(OECD) will probably downgrade its view,<br />
too. We have hoped-for growth that is more<br />
on the hope side than the reality side.<br />
Q Is secular stagnation the new normal<br />
for the years ahead?<br />
TB The evidence seems to point in that<br />
direction. Since the 2008 global financial<br />
crisis we have not been able to return to<br />
the growth rates we had before, even in the<br />
United States, which has performed better<br />
than other countries. Labour participation<br />
is still significantly below pre-crisis levels.<br />
@tombernes<br />
www.cigiownline.org<br />
There is a risk that the uncertainty being<br />
created by the Trump candidacy affects<br />
business decisions, particularly added to<br />
other uncertainties. We are facing declining<br />
productivity growth, which predates 2008.<br />
RF I am more concerned that we have<br />
tried using all of our macroeconomic<br />
policy tools and are coming up short on<br />
implementing policies that bring new<br />
growth. We need new solutions. The global<br />
economy, especially the G7 economies,<br />
needs a new shock, which will come<br />
from the microeconomic side, namely<br />
structural reform. Structural rigidities in the<br />
underlying rules and regulatory approaches<br />
seem to be hamstringing all our economies<br />
these days.<br />
Q Can global growth be stimulated<br />
through coordinated fiscal measures?<br />
TB The <strong>G20</strong> responded to the financial<br />
crisis with massive fiscal stimulus, which<br />
proved very helpful. In retrospect, the <strong>G20</strong><br />
was premature in declaring victory at the<br />
2010 Toronto Summit. Fiscal stimulus,<br />
while not appropriate for everyone, was the<br />
right thing to do. Where it was working, it<br />
was turned off too soon. Monetary policy is<br />
asked to do too much. Structural reforms are<br />
necessary, but are politically very difficult,<br />
and the payoff is not immediate.<br />
In the 2014 Brisbane Action Plan, the<br />
<strong>G20</strong> agreed on implementing structural<br />
measures, so that leaves fiscal stimulus.<br />
Several countries, such as Canada, have<br />
space to carry a deficit and invest in<br />
infrastructure, which both increases demand<br />
immediately and strengthens the economy’s<br />
underlying capacity for the future. Germany<br />
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