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Running head<br />
→ as contracts get awarded to friends or<br />
family, not to the most efficient and the<br />
most competitive bidder.<br />
Private-sourced infrastructure<br />
investment has sometimes been more<br />
effective in China than some governmentsourced<br />
spending. Both India and China,<br />
where there are huge demands for<br />
infrastructure, need more private-sector,<br />
private-run approaches, in addition to<br />
government-financed ones.<br />
Q If the stimulus is part of the solution,<br />
what form should it take?<br />
TB Many studies have looked at the deficit<br />
in infrastructure investment globally. The<br />
numbers are huge – obviously, in emerging<br />
markets such as India and perhaps<br />
China, but also in North America. A lot<br />
of crumbling infrastructure needs to be<br />
rebuilt. If there is immediate need, it will<br />
serve the economy well in the future, as<br />
well as giving that short-term boost.<br />
RF Look at the Detroit-Windsor bridge and<br />
how much truck traffic takes place between<br />
Canada and the United States. A large<br />
share of trade passes over that one bridge.<br />
Even on a bilateral basis does crumbling<br />
infrastructure play a significant role.<br />
In the long term, we need to improve<br />
the educational system and adequately<br />
prepare young people for the future. We<br />
may need to return to vocational<br />
training as opposed to every<br />
child going to college. It is hard<br />
to have a one-size-fits-all<br />
approach to fiscal stimulus<br />
everywhere. It needs to be<br />
country by country. One<br />
can talk about infrastructure<br />
spending and then leave it to<br />
the ‘local’ level to decide how to<br />
define infrastructure.<br />
Q How could fiscal stimulus be<br />
coordinated with monetary policy for<br />
maximum effect?<br />
2%<br />
Added growth <strong>G20</strong><br />
members committed<br />
to at the 2014<br />
Brisbane Summit<br />
TB Fiscal and monetary policies are<br />
opposite sides of the same coin. The<br />
governor of the Bank of Canada said fiscal<br />
policy has relieved pressure on monetary<br />
policy because the policies are working<br />
together effectively. Mario Draghi told<br />
European political leaders that there<br />
are limits to what the European Central<br />
Bank can do.<br />
In several countries, such as Germany,<br />
political authorities are not addressing<br />
the task. On the structural side, these are<br />
very difficult political issues. At Brisbane,<br />
governments committed to add two per<br />
cent growth to the trend line of 2013.<br />
Implementation has been very weak.<br />
The hope was that announcing measures<br />
together would give some cover for<br />
addressing politically difficult issues such<br />
as immigration. But countries have, sadly,<br />
become silent.<br />
RF Timing makes a huge difference.<br />
Some reforms have some short-term and<br />
short-to-medium-term effects and those are<br />
all positive. Some labour market changes,<br />
unless accompanied by other policies on<br />
the fiscal or tax side, particularly focused<br />
on industries or labour market conditions,<br />
can have short-term negative effects.<br />
In the post-war period there was<br />
a considerable focus on the role of<br />
monetary authorities. Central banks need<br />
independence from governments.<br />
There was a long, slow battle to<br />
break the Bank of Japan away<br />
from the finance ministry. It<br />
has gone backwards under<br />
Shinzo Abe. Coordinated<br />
fiscal and monetary policies<br />
that are announced jointly<br />
and draw central bank<br />
governors and finance ministers<br />
together to agree on policies weaken<br />
the banks’ independence.<br />
Central bank governors could coordinate<br />
their own statements. That said, on the<br />
structural and fiscal side,<br />
we need coordination. Realistic discussions<br />
on implementable fiscal or structural<br />
policies can positively affect business and<br />
consumer expectations.<br />
We are failing to focus on the current<br />
weak consumption effects. People are<br />
saving more than spending, because<br />
they lack confidence in the job markets<br />
and outlook. We need to look at business<br />
investment and consumer behaviour.<br />
Q What should the <strong>G20</strong> leaders do at<br />
their Hangzhou Summit?<br />
TB Bob’s point about confidence also<br />
applies in Europe and Canada and<br />
elsewhere, especially in the context of<br />
the broad disenchantment with political<br />
institutions in many countries. The lack<br />
of credibility in institutions and political<br />
leaders contributes to the growing rejection<br />
of the elite. The <strong>G20</strong> risks falling into the<br />
same trap. It is the same people, after all.<br />
The Brisbane Action Plan was an<br />
attempt to be more specific. Perhaps it<br />
could have worked had governments<br />
been prepared to follow through, but<br />
they have not. They will make their usual<br />
statements, which of course are right: we<br />
need to buttress world growth through<br />
appropriate monetary, fiscal and structural<br />
measures. They need short-term wins to<br />
create credibility in their commitments,<br />
which would instil confidence and promote<br />
growth. It may be something about<br />
infrastructure, perhaps building on<br />
China’s Silk Road initiative.<br />
RF The effectiveness of a communiqué<br />
is inversely proportional to the number<br />
of pages. Keep it simple, stupid. We need<br />
something that is results oriented and<br />
visible. Something they can point to and<br />
say: “We did this.” They need to focus on<br />
something they have done jointly, and<br />
say “here is the value from it”. It can be<br />
something very small but it needs to be<br />
concrete. Rebuilding confidence is very<br />
important. <strong>G20</strong><br />
98 <strong>G20</strong> China: The Hangzhou Summit • September 2016 G7<strong>G20</strong>.com