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Running head<br />

→ as contracts get awarded to friends or<br />

family, not to the most efficient and the<br />

most competitive bidder.<br />

Private-sourced infrastructure<br />

investment has sometimes been more<br />

effective in China than some governmentsourced<br />

spending. Both India and China,<br />

where there are huge demands for<br />

infrastructure, need more private-sector,<br />

private-run approaches, in addition to<br />

government-financed ones.<br />

Q If the stimulus is part of the solution,<br />

what form should it take?<br />

TB Many studies have looked at the deficit<br />

in infrastructure investment globally. The<br />

numbers are huge – obviously, in emerging<br />

markets such as India and perhaps<br />

China, but also in North America. A lot<br />

of crumbling infrastructure needs to be<br />

rebuilt. If there is immediate need, it will<br />

serve the economy well in the future, as<br />

well as giving that short-term boost.<br />

RF Look at the Detroit-Windsor bridge and<br />

how much truck traffic takes place between<br />

Canada and the United States. A large<br />

share of trade passes over that one bridge.<br />

Even on a bilateral basis does crumbling<br />

infrastructure play a significant role.<br />

In the long term, we need to improve<br />

the educational system and adequately<br />

prepare young people for the future. We<br />

may need to return to vocational<br />

training as opposed to every<br />

child going to college. It is hard<br />

to have a one-size-fits-all<br />

approach to fiscal stimulus<br />

everywhere. It needs to be<br />

country by country. One<br />

can talk about infrastructure<br />

spending and then leave it to<br />

the ‘local’ level to decide how to<br />

define infrastructure.<br />

Q How could fiscal stimulus be<br />

coordinated with monetary policy for<br />

maximum effect?<br />

2%<br />

Added growth <strong>G20</strong><br />

members committed<br />

to at the 2014<br />

Brisbane Summit<br />

TB Fiscal and monetary policies are<br />

opposite sides of the same coin. The<br />

governor of the Bank of Canada said fiscal<br />

policy has relieved pressure on monetary<br />

policy because the policies are working<br />

together effectively. Mario Draghi told<br />

European political leaders that there<br />

are limits to what the European Central<br />

Bank can do.<br />

In several countries, such as Germany,<br />

political authorities are not addressing<br />

the task. On the structural side, these are<br />

very difficult political issues. At Brisbane,<br />

governments committed to add two per<br />

cent growth to the trend line of 2013.<br />

Implementation has been very weak.<br />

The hope was that announcing measures<br />

together would give some cover for<br />

addressing politically difficult issues such<br />

as immigration. But countries have, sadly,<br />

become silent.<br />

RF Timing makes a huge difference.<br />

Some reforms have some short-term and<br />

short-to-medium-term effects and those are<br />

all positive. Some labour market changes,<br />

unless accompanied by other policies on<br />

the fiscal or tax side, particularly focused<br />

on industries or labour market conditions,<br />

can have short-term negative effects.<br />

In the post-war period there was<br />

a considerable focus on the role of<br />

monetary authorities. Central banks need<br />

independence from governments.<br />

There was a long, slow battle to<br />

break the Bank of Japan away<br />

from the finance ministry. It<br />

has gone backwards under<br />

Shinzo Abe. Coordinated<br />

fiscal and monetary policies<br />

that are announced jointly<br />

and draw central bank<br />

governors and finance ministers<br />

together to agree on policies weaken<br />

the banks’ independence.<br />

Central bank governors could coordinate<br />

their own statements. That said, on the<br />

structural and fiscal side,<br />

we need coordination. Realistic discussions<br />

on implementable fiscal or structural<br />

policies can positively affect business and<br />

consumer expectations.<br />

We are failing to focus on the current<br />

weak consumption effects. People are<br />

saving more than spending, because<br />

they lack confidence in the job markets<br />

and outlook. We need to look at business<br />

investment and consumer behaviour.<br />

Q What should the <strong>G20</strong> leaders do at<br />

their Hangzhou Summit?<br />

TB Bob’s point about confidence also<br />

applies in Europe and Canada and<br />

elsewhere, especially in the context of<br />

the broad disenchantment with political<br />

institutions in many countries. The lack<br />

of credibility in institutions and political<br />

leaders contributes to the growing rejection<br />

of the elite. The <strong>G20</strong> risks falling into the<br />

same trap. It is the same people, after all.<br />

The Brisbane Action Plan was an<br />

attempt to be more specific. Perhaps it<br />

could have worked had governments<br />

been prepared to follow through, but<br />

they have not. They will make their usual<br />

statements, which of course are right: we<br />

need to buttress world growth through<br />

appropriate monetary, fiscal and structural<br />

measures. They need short-term wins to<br />

create credibility in their commitments,<br />

which would instil confidence and promote<br />

growth. It may be something about<br />

infrastructure, perhaps building on<br />

China’s Silk Road initiative.<br />

RF The effectiveness of a communiqué<br />

is inversely proportional to the number<br />

of pages. Keep it simple, stupid. We need<br />

something that is results oriented and<br />

visible. Something they can point to and<br />

say: “We did this.” They need to focus on<br />

something they have done jointly, and<br />

say “here is the value from it”. It can be<br />

something very small but it needs to be<br />

concrete. Rebuilding confidence is very<br />

important. <strong>G20</strong><br />

98 <strong>G20</strong> China: The Hangzhou Summit • September 2016 G7<strong>G20</strong>.com

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