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PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

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OSTERMAN: Mm hmm.<br />

HAEG: He knew but what he knew is it'd be more likely to get a search warrant if he<br />

said the wolves were in...<br />

OSTERMAN: The area <strong>of</strong> your lodge.<br />

HAEG: the area <strong>of</strong> my lodge. So he falsified that. Tony, the guy that was shooting the<br />

wolves, told him they were in 19D not 19C, I told him and then we have that on tape – us telling<br />

him that it was in 19D. And 19D was where it was legal to shoot wolves but not in that area <strong>of</strong><br />

19D. So – so if it came out that the wolves we shot were in 19D which is where the program was<br />

going on it would kind <strong>of</strong> be a violation <strong>of</strong> the permit and not violation as a big game guide<br />

guiding. Because the permit had violations and this is goanna be big one for your appeal.<br />

OSTERMAN: Mm hmm.<br />

Phone Conversation 3/22/06<br />

Between David Haeg & Mark Osterman<br />

Mr. Osterman: And our job is to get to the rainbow first.<br />

Haeg: Yep but what I'm saying is you know you keep kind <strong>of</strong> bringing up this Rule 11<br />

Agreement it wasn't in the trial so to get to the Rule 11 Agreement you might as well go back to<br />

the search warrants not being correct. Do you understand is – is during the trial what you could<br />

appeal on the trial the Rule 11 Agreement wasn't part <strong>of</strong> that anyway so you know if - if you're<br />

goanna go to the Rule try to say "oh well they broke this agreement" you might as well go all the<br />

way back and use everything that wasn't in the trial and I think the more I look at the law and<br />

everything on and how sticky they are for search warrants. Search warrants are a very – very –<br />

very tightly regulated thing and when – when a trooper lies on it that's a horrendous mistake. -<br />

Um- . . .<br />

Mr. Osterman: Yeah.<br />

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