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PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

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wheeled out this tape see and then your goanna have all kinds <strong>of</strong><br />

problems.<br />

Mr. Haeg:<br />

And that's when they're goanna throw my case out.<br />

Mr. Osterman: Well that – in my opinion that's when it's goanna get nasty and as I said before<br />

nasty is not what they want. This – look – look this Court <strong>of</strong> Appeals is a panel <strong>of</strong> 5<br />

judges and 3 sit here and 3 sit there so there's always a guy moving around. I think<br />

Mannheimer's the swingman right now. And Mannheimer's a freaking Nazi.<br />

Mr. Haeg: I thought the Court <strong>of</strong> Appeals was only 3 judges.<br />

Mr. Osterman: It's 3 judges but there's 5 <strong>of</strong> them and they impanel themselves 3 at a time.<br />

You follow me<br />

Mr. Haeg: So who all – who are all 5<br />

Mr. Osterman: Huh<br />

Mr. Haeg:<br />

Whose the 5 judges<br />

Mr. Osterman: I can't tell you <strong>of</strong>f the top <strong>of</strong> my head who all 5 are. I know Manheimer's there<br />

and I think Coats is the other one, -uh-<br />

Mr. Haeg: Stewart<br />

Mr. Osterman: and there's another one but see there's – there's also I believe there's a<br />

panel out <strong>of</strong> Juneau, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway bear with me for a second the – the<br />

current – the situation involving this panel – as – as I said – I have only appeared twice in front<br />

<strong>of</strong> the Court <strong>of</strong> Appeals. And that was years ago. That was -uh- lets see probably 6 years ago. –<br />

-Uh- or there abouts. The -um- the – the situation with the Court <strong>of</strong> Appeals is if we've got<br />

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