PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

STOUMBAUGH: 55%
OSTERMAN: Well I’m not an odds maker. Hell if I were odds maker I wouldn’t be here
would I The -uh- well the fact of the matter is – is that’s the reason that we took it is because we
thought there was some merit to it. Second we took it because it was a Robinson washout and I
knew enough of the tales of this particular case and the tales being – not stories being told but the
– having heard about this case going on from a lot of other people. -Uh- and I heard Chuck
Robinson once stated he really was f-ing pissed that this case had gone
the way it had gone. And he blamed Scot Leaders for a lot of bullshit.
HAEG: Well -um- I guess what I keep coming back to is – Jackie how much law have
we found that just says that we’ve been screwed from point A to point Z
JACKIE: A lot. I mean…
HAEG: Reams of it.
JACKIE: … we were on Westlaw for two weeks.
OSTERMAN: Yeah.
HAEG: Now why is that and how come we don’t utilize that stuff in here
OSTERMAN: We – we have utilized that stuff.
HAEG: No you haven’t.
OSTERMAN: We’re not goanna type search terms and push the button and take the first
thing that comes along. One of the things that happens in any case – remember I sent you that
case – said “this case is an important case – this case is on all fours”
HAEG: Yeah and…
OSTERMAN: On the effective assistance of counsel …
HAEG: Yeah.
OSTERMAN: The 2 nd circuit had reversed the case.
HAEG: Yeah. They hadn’t though. It never was reversed.
OSTERMAN: It was – it was affirmed for other reasons.
HAEG: Yeah I mean wouldn’t it make sense to utilize one of the hundreds that we’ve
found where they reversed the decision then to use one that it wasn’t reversed because of that
But another thing that kind of made me – I - you know - I don’t know -um- you know to me it
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