PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

Program -um- and initially I was laboring, as I believe Mr. Cole might have been laboring, under
a misperception that the State authorities because they had authorized a State Wolf Control
Program that – that there might be some sympathy or adhere from the State officials regarding -
um- the plight that - that Mr. Haeg and Mr. Zellers found themselves in. And almost immediately
Mr. Leaders who was representing the State dispelled that – that belief among Mr. Cole and I by
emphatically indicating to me repeatedly that this was not the kind of case that we were goanna
find any sympathy for in fact the State was goanna in my view bend over backwards to make
sure that for political reasons if nothing else that -uh- in some measure -uh- these gentleman -
um- were - the matter was goanna be addressed very sternly.
Cole: Do you recall talking to me about you - our understanding of our
client going in – clients going in and giving statements to the officers in
this case
Fitzgerald: Well I can tell you my clear understanding from having talked to Mr. Leaders and I
will represent here as an officer of the Court and Mr. Leaders indicated that -uh- my client Mr.
Zellers was goanna be given immunity that there was nothing about that
interview which I characterize as a "king for a day" – there was nothing
about that interview that could be used against Mr. Zellers.
Shaw: Excuse me. What did you mean a "king for a day"
Fitzgerald: -Um- it's – it's something that – that I frankly – you don't see -um- as frequently in
State Prosecutions but in Federal Prosecutions it's – it's what I describe as -um- the immunity
that – that usually is accompanied a letter -um- where you bring your client in and -um- the -uhprotections
that are afforded -uh- your client are essentially use immunity protections. The –
because the State and the Feds interpret immunity differently I've always interpreted that if you
bought that same kind of offer and protection in -um- the States side that it
would be transactional immunity.
Cole: In your discussions with Mr. Leaders did you learn that he needed Mr. Zellers testimony
because he didn't have evidence of some of the counts because he couldn't use Mr.
Haeg's statement
Fitzgerald: I know that – that – that was discussed. I know that – that was discussed between
you and Mr. Leaders; it was discussed between Mr. Leaders and myself, and -um- -uh- it was
clear to me that by virtue of the immunity provided that – that Mr.
Leaders believed maybe early on that he might have – he wasn't goanna
have because of the immunity agreement…. May I just make a point of
clarification I was asked about the correspondence -uh- that I believe was exhibit 1. I have a
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