PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

MR. HAEG: Ok of who – of who
JACKIE HAEG: Of -um- Brent Cole.
MR. HAEG: Ok. Did he say anything about Chuck Robinson
JACKIE HAEG: Well he said that yeah that Chuck could be brought in with ineffective
assistance of counsel also.
MR. HAEG: Ok and was he – did Mr. Osterman seem like it was a good chance, a little chance,
or what – how did he describe the conduct of my first two attorneys
JACKIE HAEG: Pretty much as outrageous, unbelievable, you know he couldn't believe what
they had done – or had not done.
MR. HAEG: Ok and did he feel that a lot of what they had done or had not done was
attributable to the State prosecutor
JACKIE HAEG: Yeah he did. He felt that Mr. Leaders had done quit a bit of things bad in
your case.
MR. HAEG: And that – and was my attorneys actions in – or inactions a result of what Mr.
Leaders did
JACKIE HAEG: In breaking the rule 11 agreement yes. They – they never stood up for it.
MR. HAEG: Ok and what about the using my statements against me that I made in plea
negotiations – did Mr. Leaders do that and did –uh- Mr. Osterman consider that a very
significant act
JACKIE HAEG: Yes. Mr. Leaders could do that and Mr. Osterman said that he could not
believe that
MR. HAEG: Ok did I ask Mr. Osterman if he had any compunction whatsoever for using the
acts of my first two attorneys to help me
JACKIE HAEG: Yes you did ask him that.
MR. HAEG: Ok. So how did – what did – what frame of mind did Mr. Osterman try to put me
into – or what – what was his –uh- outlook on the ability of us – of him to successfully reverse
my conviction
MR. ROM: Objection.
MAGISTRATE WOODMANCY: Sustained. Your asking your wife what he was thinking.
MR. HAEG: Ok. Ok and ok -um- was Mr. Osterman optimistic
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