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PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

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looked like you know your – I mean to me I sent you the - the stuff that I wanted in or why I was<br />

so pissed about Brent Cole and Chuck Robinson.<br />

OSTERMAN: And you’re interested…<br />

HAEG: And not hardly any <strong>of</strong> that - I mean none <strong>of</strong> it is in here. And I can’t be<br />

that mistaken. I’m a very – very intelligent person. I read like the freaking wind. You know how<br />

much material I’ve been through<br />

OSTERMAN: Mm hmm. I understand.<br />

HAEG: You don’t think that any <strong>of</strong> that would rub <strong>of</strong>f on me<br />

OSTERMAN: I think it would.<br />

HAEG: But…<br />

OSTERMAN: At the same time – here’s the realization Dave. In spite <strong>of</strong> all that you’ve<br />

read - most <strong>of</strong> which deals with malpractice – not ineffective assistance. Different things. They<br />

are a much different things.<br />

HAEG: How come there are always tied lied like this<br />

OSTERMAN: They’re tied in the civil context like this. They’re not tied that in the<br />

criminal context.<br />

HAEG: How come every criminal malpractice claim had to have an ineffective<br />

assistance <strong>of</strong> counsel before it could happen<br />

OSTERMAN: True.<br />

HAEG: So – ok because you know that don’t you think that every criminal malpractice<br />

claim is something very important to look at<br />

OSTERMAN: Let me give you an example. Ineffective assistance <strong>of</strong> counsel is I don’t<br />

call your wife as a witness, I – we leave her at home, we don’t give her a subpoena, we don’t<br />

invite her to come to the trial, she doesn’t testify but she’s the one who established your alibi –<br />

your whereabouts. If I don’t call her is that a tactic error or is that a technical error<br />

HAEG: I don’t know.<br />

OSTERMAN: To me it’s a fatal error. Ok. Any attorney who doesn’t listen to his<br />

client’s witnesses is a damn fool. So if you tell me here’s 15 names. I’m subpoenaing 15 names.<br />

Ok. I’m goanna send out subpoenas. Why…<br />

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