PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

MR. OSTERMAN: I do and you might also remember I brought you a case where I changed
my tune with regard to some of that statement.
MR. HAEG: Ok.
MR. OSTERMAN: I sent you a case I believe out of New Jersey or New York or something
where the I think it was one of the circuit Court of Appeals had said that –uh- that it was
certainly an effect - ineffective assistance to fail to advise a client with regard to plea agreement.
MR. HAEG: Yeah and I remember that. Do you also remember saying "but you can't" or I
asked you – I – I – do you remember me asking you "but you can't – you cannot have a
malpractice suit unless you're found innocent or not innocent or unless your conviction is
overturned" -um- and I said "Chuck Robinson...
MR. OSTERMAN: But as a general...
MR. HAEG: ...told me that".
MR. OSTERMAN: Yes.
MR. HAEG: Ok...
MR. OSTERMAN: Generally that's correct.
MR. HAEG: Ok yeah and you – do you remember saying "No Chuck's wrong, ok He
obviously was the malpractice of one attorney that put you in this bind. Cole has a malpractice
problem a big malpractice problem." Do you remember saying that
MR. OSTERMAN: Yeah but what's this got to do with anything, sir What's this got to do with
my ability to protect you
MR. HAEG: It – it has to do whether I am intelligent in going on my own. -Um- do you ever
remember me – or - or you stating to me you stating to me "You gave the evidence to the District
Attorney to use against you because of Cole's conduct." You ever remember saying that to me
MR. OSTERMAN: I may have said that to you sir. What's that got to do with my ability to
withdrawal from this case or my recommendations about whether you are able to proceed pro se
MR. HAEG: It has nothing to do with that. It has to do whether it's an intelligent decision of
mine to go pro se. Did you ever make the statement...
MR. OSTERMAN: I – I don't know you're – whether your firing me is an intelligent decision
or not – I'm not the judge of that.
MR. HAEG: Ok.
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