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PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

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JACKIE HAEG: Yes he was – very.<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok and did that optimism or did it – you had stated earlier that he said he was<br />

willing to use the actions <strong>of</strong> my first two attorneys to help me – is that correct<br />

JACKIE HAEG: Yes (indecipherable).<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok did that change at some point<br />

JACKIE HAEG: Yes it changed.<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok and can you explain to the court how that changed<br />

JACKIE HAEG: Well he told – he said that he didn't want to go after<br />

two attorneys lives and livelihoods and that he was not goanna follow<br />

through on the ineffective assistance <strong>of</strong> counsel claim like he had<br />

originally told he was goanna do.<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok -um- did he ever – did Mr. Osterman state that ineffective assistance <strong>of</strong><br />

counsel is a – is a cumulative nature<br />

JACKIE HAEG: Yes he did.<br />

MR. HAEG: -Um- did Mr. Osterman use a cumulative tactic<br />

JACKIE HAEG: No.<br />

MR. HAEG: And why not<br />

JACKIE HAEG: I don't know.<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok -um- do you remember him stating that he did not want to affect the lives and<br />

livelihoods<br />

JACKIE HAEG: That's what I just said.<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok -um- in the Mr. Osterman's representation <strong>of</strong> me and us because we're all<br />

involved in this – would you say that Mr. Osterman had a conflict <strong>of</strong> interest<br />

MR. ROM: Objection – leading.<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok.<br />

MAGISTRATE WOODMANCY: Sustained.<br />

MR. HAEG: Ok. I don't know how to do this. In your opinion could Mr. Osterman represent<br />

us effectively<br />

MR. ROM: Objection...<br />

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