PCR Exhibits - Alaska State of Corruption

Tamara Russell, Psy.D., MHC IV
Licensed Psychologist (AK#538)
Forensic Evaluator
Alaska Psychiatric Institute
TR/pal/MEMOLTR/23119F
D: 8/24/06
T: 8/25/06
EXHIBIT 29
FITZGERALD'S 4/13/06 ABA TESTIMONY HAEG HAD IMMUNITY
Cole: Do you recall talking to me about you - our understanding of our client going in – clients
going in and giving statements to the officers in this case
Fitzgerald: Well I can tell you my clear understanding from having talked to Mr. Leaders and I
will represent here as an officer of the Court and Mr. Leaders indicated that -uh- my client Mr.
Zellers was goanna be given immunity that there was nothing about that interview which I
characterize as a "king for a day" – there was nothing about that interview that could be used
against Mr. Zellers.
Shaw: Excuse me. What did you mean a "king for a day"
Fitzgerald: -Um- it's – it's something that – that I frankly – you don't see -um- as frequently in
State Prosecutions but in Federal Prosecutions it's – it's what I describe as -um- the immunity
that – that usually is accompanied a letter -um- where you bring your client in and -um- the -uhprotections
that are afforded -uh- your client are essentially use immunity protections. The –
because the State and the Feds interpret immunity differently I've always interpreted that if you
bought that same kind of offer and protection in -um- the States side that it would be
transactional immunity. -Uh- that they wouldn't be able to use it for any purpose whatsoever.
There – the Feds and the State have a little different view with regard to what immunity means. I
hope I answered your question. I - it – it's had to do with immunity.
Cole: In your discussions with Mr. Leaders did you learn that he needed Mr. Zellers
testimony because he didn't have evidence of some of the counts because he couldn't use Mr.
Haeg's statement
Fitzgerald: I know that – that – that was discussed. I know that – that was discussed between
you and Mr. Leaders; it was discussed between Mr. Leaders and myself, and -um- -uh- it was
clear to me that by virtue of the immunity provided that – that Mr. Leaders believed maybe early
on that he might have – he wasn't goanna have because of the immunity agreement.
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