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“I would certainly use it more often if community service orders were available as penalties in<br />

themselves …I verystronglyhave that view” A2J1DC<br />

“Well I think you could certainly consider it in far many more cases than you would do at present”.<br />

A1J5DC<br />

In the survey, a contrarian view was expressed on the likelihood of breaches of a stand<br />

alone communityservice order ultimatelyleading to a termof imprisonment:<br />

“I don’t think so. I think if it were available more widely, that it might actually avoid people going<br />

into custody. There clearly has to be a way of enforcing it or dealing with the case otherwise if the<br />

defendant doesn’t comply with the order. But if it’s de-coupled from having to presuppose a<br />

sentence, then it’s not a case where automatically there would be a sentence if it is not complied<br />

with.”A2J1DC<br />

He suggested that even a fine might be the penalty for not complying with community<br />

service.<br />

Issues about sentencing and an apprehension that judges would use community service<br />

orders inconsistently were articulated in the Senate Debate when Senator Ryan asked if<br />

there was “anything which could be done to get some sort of even-handed interpretation<br />

of this” by Judges (Senate Debate, vol.101, cols. 875-876, 7 th July, 1983, Senator Ryan).<br />

The Minister for Justice replied that sentencing was a matter for the Judiciary but the<br />

President of the District Court could call a meeting a discuss the matter with District<br />

Justices under the statutory meeting procedure pursuant to the Courts (Supplemental<br />

Provision) Act 1961. However, it should be pointed out that while the procedure for<br />

meetings to discuss sentencing might facilitate a discussion upon issues relating to<br />

consistency in sentencing there is no requirement upon those attending such meetings to<br />

perform their function in a manner other than within the legal requirements. Discretion in<br />

this regard remains unfettered. The only requirement in respect of community service<br />

orders is that the Judge must have in mind a custodial sentence before deciding to impose<br />

a communityservice order instead.<br />

Inconsistency may arise in the case of community service orders under a number of<br />

headings. Firstly, there is the issue of equivalence between the number of hours to be<br />

performed under a community service order and the alternative custodial penalty. As<br />

previously noted, Walsh and Sexton (1999) found significant variation between Courts on<br />

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