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Appendix Q – Measurement and Indicators<br />

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KH How many people actually visit the location? How long do people stay?<br />

KH similar to job interviews, how do you know the person can do it?<br />

KH have an interview <strong>for</strong> the last round with someone, than you will get a feeling.<br />

TB The first group relates to the objectives of the per<strong>for</strong>mance of the individual expansion. What is the<br />

quality of a debtor of such a business plan etc, etc?<br />

TB The second set of standard, measurements relates to the per<strong>for</strong>mance of your credit organization.<br />

What are my costs, what are the costs of funding, what are my financial characteristics, what is the<br />

rating of my organization?<br />

TB The third set of observations relates to the question, what economic, what social and what objectives<br />

has this bank in the given working area, a country, county, city, village, maybe a enterprise network,<br />

the farmers bank in... etc, etc?<br />

TB How are these objectives <strong>for</strong>mulated? And what measurements do you have to check whether the<br />

bank is making a contribution towards that?<br />

TB From there, you could start developing some kind of <strong>Balanced</strong> Scorecard and than it would appear that<br />

in most of the cases initially a lot of attention is <strong>for</strong> the per<strong>for</strong>mance<br />

TB also social objective need to be able to be measured otherwise that are not good.<br />

TB the economical output of that group needs to provide a contribution, <strong>for</strong> example to the GDP that is the<br />

same as the contribution of the average Dutch person.<br />

TB it goes wrong due to the measurements and especially the financial measurements that we link with to<br />

a single perspective. From the lending company or the investing company<br />

TB do the output measurement in bags of potatoes or something similar. It is completely irrelevant if I have<br />

made !100.000, -<br />

TB the goal should be to break even<br />

TB Also HRM systems, 90% is about rewards. I know from experience that that is not true, especially <strong>for</strong><br />

people of my age.<br />

RL we know that people will use the site to search, but how do you measure a search function?<br />

OE than back to the action plan, where do you want to be in 6 months, and what needs to be done in the<br />

mean time?<br />

OE When you say now, in five years I want to do this and this, it does not mean that you cannot change<br />

your plan in the mean time<br />

AP For example MFI want to improve the living conditions of their costumers. How do we create insight,<br />

and how can we check whether that is really happening?<br />

AP In first instance that is really about the measurement, how do you make sure you measure something<br />

that you know how well you are doing?<br />

AP Second how do I use the in<strong>for</strong>mation I measured in my internal business processes, to use that in a<br />

strategic way. When I see, that my customers, my microfinance customers do not get better from it, by<br />

income or assets or whatever.<br />

AP What I find important is that when you implement this at a MFI, than what is the mission of that MFI?<br />

When that is the empowerment of women, if that is your mission, than you need to be able to say<br />

something about that.<br />

AP Is that going good, how many women did we empower, what is that and how do we measure that?<br />

AP If you are a MFI that does not focus on woman, than I do not think it makes a lot of sense to measure<br />

the percentage of women.<br />

AP In that perspective, if you talk about do you measure millennium goals, which are still relatively broad. I<br />

am more specific, I sit down with them and talk about; 'what is your mission and what concrete<br />

objectives can you filter from that, and from there measure.<br />

AP you can look at several things, you can look at what type of customers do I have? Most organizations<br />

say we focus on poor costumers. Than, I want to see that. Than you will help such an organization to<br />

measure whether they are helping the right target group.<br />

Elmar Hoogendoorn 133<br />

<strong>Sustainable</strong> <strong>Microfinance</strong>

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