THE DHAMMAPADA: THE WAY OF THE BUDDHA, VOL. 9-12 The ...
THE DHAMMAPADA: THE WAY OF THE BUDDHA, VOL. 9-12 The ...
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<strong>THE</strong> <strong>DHAMMAPADA</strong>: <strong>THE</strong> <strong>WAY</strong> <strong>OF</strong> <strong>THE</strong> <strong>BUDDHA</strong>, <strong>VOL</strong>. 9-<strong>12</strong> 359<br />
Narendra, you ask me, ”Is there really no difference between an ordinary person and one who is enlightened?”<br />
<strong>The</strong>re is no difference in this sense: that both belong to the same world of consciousness. One is asleep, one is<br />
awake; hence the difference. But the difference is only peripheral, not central, not intrinsic, but accidental.<br />
Respect the buddhas and that will teach you to respect yourself. Respect the buddhas, but don’t condemn<br />
yourself. Love yourself because you are also carrying a buddha within you. You are also carrying a bud which is<br />
going to become a buddha. Any moment, any day... it can be now, it can be here....<br />
<strong>The</strong> fifth question:<br />
Question 5<br />
BELOVED MASTER, A GERMAN NEWSPAPER CALLED YOU <strong>THE</strong> MOST FAMOUS RELIGIOUS<br />
LEADER AFTER POPE PAUL AND KHOMEINI. HOW DO YOU FEEL IN THAT COMPANY?<br />
Veet Vivarto, I would rather be in hell than be in that stupid company Pope Paul the Polack and Khomeini<br />
the Khomeiniac! I have not done anything so sinful in my life to suffer that company. I have no karmas to be<br />
punished that will be a punishment.<br />
I have heard:<br />
One mahatma, a great saint, died must have been someone like Muktananda. One of his followers died the<br />
next day. When the follower reached heaven, the first thing that he was interested in was, ”Where is our guru,<br />
our Muktananda? He must be enjoying he must have been given all the joys that only heaven can provide.”<br />
And then suddenly he saw Muktananda underneath a beautiful tree... with whom, do you know? with Sophia<br />
Loren! Sophia Loren sitting in his lap, both naked, hugging each other! <strong>The</strong> follower fell at the feet of Muktananda.<br />
He said, ”Guru Deva, O Great Master, I always knew that you were the greatest master; now I am seeing with<br />
my own eyes. God is so pleased with you, he has given you Sophia Loren as a reward!”<br />
Muktananda looked very angrily at the man and said, ”You fool, stop talking nonsense! You don’t understand<br />
a thing. She is not my reward, I am her punishment!”<br />
I have not committed any sin so I don’t think that I belong to that company. I belong to very ordinary people<br />
drunkards, gamblers, not to such stupid people, full of holy cow dung!<br />
But that journalist must think he is praising me. That’s what goes on in the world: people are so unconscious<br />
that they don’t know what praise is and what condemnation is. This is condemnation, not praise!<br />
Khomeini is not religious at all. Khomeini is the most irreligious person present today. And do you think Pope<br />
Paul is religious? If he is religious he cannot even be Catholic, what to say about being Pope Paul? He cannot<br />
be a pope. A religious person cannot be a Catholic or a Christian or a Hindu or a Mohammedan. <strong>The</strong>se are just<br />
politicians playing the same game of power politics in the name of religion.<br />
I have seen the article. <strong>The</strong> article is one of the most positive articles written about me, except for this small<br />
condemnation. So the journalist is not really trying to condemn me; in his vision, in his idea, he is praising me as<br />
the third most important religious leader.<br />
I am not religious in the ordinary sense of the word, and I am not a leader at all. I don’t like leading anybody.<br />
Certainly I am a finger pointing at the moon, but I am not a leader. You have to do all your walking, I am not<br />
coming along with you. I am not going to be ahead of you leading you. You are not to follow me, you have to be<br />
your own self. I can simply share my experience.<br />
If that experience touches something in you, if that experience makes you aware that life is not what you think<br />
it is, that it is far more, that’s enough. If I can create a thirst in you, that’s enough a thirst for God. I am not<br />
a leader. If I can create enough thirst in you, then you will seek and search. And those who seek find, and those<br />
who search are bound to find, are absolutely, inevitably bound to find. All that is needed is an authentic thirst,<br />
a thirst in the very heart, in the very center of your being.<br />
But these people are fast asleep. This journalist has never been here, he does not understand anything that I<br />
am saying. Otherwise he would not have compared me with Khomeini and Pope Paul.<br />
<strong>The</strong> Prince of Wales was vacationing in Paris. After a sumptuous dinner and many drinks he asked the hotel<br />
manager for a beautiful young lady to keep him company during the night. <strong>The</strong> manager showed him to his room<br />
and sent him a young lady.<br />
Although the prince was quite drunk he tried to make love with the lovely woman. Each time he tried, however,<br />
she would cry out, ”Matouska! Matouska!” After several attempts he fell asleep exhausted.<br />
<strong>The</strong> next morning the prince went for a stroll to a nearby village where he noticed some boys shooting marbles<br />
into holes in the ground. Suddenly one of the boys shouted, ”Matouska! Matouska!”<br />
<strong>The</strong> prince, surprised to hear this word used again, was curious and asked what it meant.<br />
One boy answered, ”Matouska means the wrong hole.”