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82 <strong>THE</strong> <strong>DHAMMAPADA</strong>: <strong>THE</strong> <strong>WAY</strong> <strong>OF</strong> <strong>THE</strong> <strong>BUDDHA</strong>, <strong>VOL</strong>. 9-<strong>12</strong><br />

Somendra... thank you, Somendra! I also will need a Judas; otherwise the story will remain incomplete. I can<br />

be a Jesus only with a Judas. Yes, somebody has to do the work of Judas it is hard work.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re are secret mystery schools which carry the tradition that Judas was one of the most obedient disciples<br />

of Jesus. He betrayed Jesus because Jesus wanted to be betrayed.<br />

That’s exactly what George Gurdjieff used to say: that Judas was not a renegade, he was simply following<br />

Jesus. And his obedience was so total that when Jesus said, ”Go and betray me, and sell me for thirty silver<br />

coins,” he went and did it. Of course, he felt very sorry for doing it, miserable, in deep anguish, but he had to<br />

follow the master. So he betrayed Jesus, Jesus was crucified, and next day Judas committed suicide. Judas died<br />

the next day. He must have felt very bad, although he had to follow the master. He was the most intelligent of<br />

all the disciples of Jesus.<br />

So, Somendra, somebody has to do the hard work of Judas. Some day, I may choose you don’t be worried and<br />

don’t be in a hurry! One day I may order you, ”Now, Somendra, you can kill me.” But before that, let me kill<br />

you!<br />

And that’s why I go on saying no to you. That is my device to kill you. You would like to be recognized, but<br />

it will be too early if I recognize you. It will be nothing but a recognition of your ego. I will recognize you only<br />

when I see the ego has disappeared; while the ego is there I will go on destroying it. My no’s are nothing but hits<br />

on the ego.<br />

Yes will also be said when you have become capable of accepting my no’s joyfully. When you have become<br />

worthy of receiving the yes, it will come on its own accord; you need not remind me. Your reminding me will only<br />

delay it. Your reminding me will make me say more no’s to you. You cannot force yes from me, you cannot force<br />

me to say yes to you. If you can force yes from me, my whole function of being a master is destroyed. You cannot<br />

force anything from me.<br />

Pass through these no’s: this is the dark night of the soul. And when the night is the darkest, the dawn is very<br />

close.<br />

<strong>The</strong> fourth question:<br />

Question 4<br />

BELOVED MASTER, ARE SCRIPTURES NOT REALLY <strong>OF</strong> ANY USE WHATSOEVER?<br />

Thomas, scriptures are beautiful, but beautiful only for those who can understand them not for you. You<br />

cannot understand them, you can only misunderstand them. I am not against the scriptures how can I be? I<br />

am speaking on one of the scriptures, <strong>The</strong> Dhammapada, Buddha’s sayings. I have spoken on Jesus’ sayings, I<br />

have spoken on Mahavira, on Krishna. I have spoken on the Upanishads, I have spoken on Tao Teh Ching. I have<br />

spoken on almost all the beautiful scriptures of the world. How can I be against them and how can I think they<br />

are useless? although I insist that you don’t depend on them. For you they are of no use.<br />

<strong>The</strong>n what is their use? <strong>The</strong>ir use is a totally different thing. When you become more meditative, the deeper<br />

you go into meditation, the more will be your capacity and clarity to understand the scriptures. Scriptures will<br />

become witnesses to you that you are on the right track. And when you reach to your innermost core, when<br />

you realize your being, then you will know what Jesus means by the kingdom of God, then you will know what<br />

Buddha means by nirvana, then you will know what the Upanishads mean by truth not before that.<br />

Right now, if you read the Bible or the Koran or the Gita, you will interpret them according to your unconscious<br />

state, according to your non-meditative state. You will misinterpret, you will misunderstand. You are not in the<br />

right shape; you are upside down, you are topsy-turvy. You are a confusion, a chaos. You are a crowd, you are<br />

not yet an individual. You don’t have a center at all. So how are you going to understand Jesus or Buddha or<br />

Krishna?<br />

Remember one very fundamental thing: you can understand Jesus only if you have tasted something of Christconsciousness<br />

in you; otherwise there is no way. You can have some glimpses of Buddha only when you have<br />

attained something of buddhahood, some texture, some taste, some fragrance. When you have entered into the<br />

country of Buddha and the buddhas, then you will be able to see the meaning.<br />

Otherwise, words are there, but who will put meaning into those words? You will put meaning into those words.<br />

You will be reading Krishna but you will not be really reading Krishna you will be reading yourself through<br />

Krishna. <strong>The</strong> words will be Krishna’s, the meanings will be yours and it is the meaning that is significant, not<br />

the word.<br />

Chauncey de Plotkin was suffering from the heartbreak of psoriasis. After vainly trying the usual patent<br />

medicines sold over the counter he finally consulted a doctor and was given a prescription and told how and when<br />

to take it.

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