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January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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NICE GUY|<br />

|12/15/02 11:04:39 PM|Kent Appel|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Welcome<br />

Phillip, What do you mean you were not impressed with what <strong>Jerry</strong> was taught?<br />

You mention he was a brillant counter puncher. He must have learned that from<br />

somewhere. If not from Flores early on, then where? You are right, <strong>Jerry</strong> was a<br />

great guy. He was down to earth and he didn't act like he was above his fans.<br />

He was very easy to talk to. Jimmy D, I am not a fan of Clayton at all. In<br />

fact just the opposite. Our own Mr. Jimmy Q said he had questions about his<br />

intregrity. This doesn't surprise me. But like I said, <strong>Jerry</strong> did lose the<br />

Chuvalo fight fair and square. Any other Ref. would have counterd <strong>Jerry</strong> out<br />

too.|<br />

|12/16/02 08:12:01 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Clayton was not<br />

saint, but I have seen the Chuvalo-<strong>Quarry</strong> tape a few times and frankly Clayton<br />

did nothing wrong. <strong>Jerry</strong> should have gotten up and he did not. I don't for one<br />

minute think <strong>Jerry</strong> dogged it, there was no quit in him. I think the punch<br />

disoriented him to the point of either not hearing the count or not having the<br />

awareness to realize that time was running and to get up when he should have.<br />

Foreman claims that in Zaire, Dick Saddler asked him for $25,000 to give to<br />

Clayton to make sure he allows Foreman to fight his fight. Foreman said he gave<br />

Saddler the cash but he has no idea of if it ever reached Clayton. Obviously<br />

Foreman didn't trust Saddler either, the implication being perhaps he just kept<br />

it. I don't know much about Saddler except that i believe he worked with Liston<br />

at the end of his career.|<br />

|12/16/02 10:35:10 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|I have heard<br />

other stories that Clayton was not above taking side money also. Since I have<br />

no proof,other than my own feeling that it is true because differing sources say<br />

the same thing, I will just leave it at that, that it may be true. |<br />

|12/16/02 04:34:28 PM|tim|new york||~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~||||10|I will always<br />

remember with joy the thrills <strong>Jerry</strong> gave me as a 12 year-old kid. I saw his<br />

fight with Foster in the Felt Forem in NY and it was a great night for <strong>Quarry</strong><br />

fans. I also saw on TV his fight with Chuvalo but can't seem to remember much<br />

except for Don Dunfey's anti-<strong>Quarry</strong> bias. Can anyone help me remember this<br />

fight? Was <strong>Jerry</strong> really kicking his butt for 6 rounds. I remember Boxing<br />

Illustrated in their fight report saying that "Chuvalo was rocked back on his<br />

heels from a wicked one-two to the button in the first few moments of the<br />

fight". Chuvalo sure looked a mess after the fight. Also any recommendations<br />

on where to get <strong>Jerry</strong>'s fights on tape? Sure would have liked to see <strong>Jerry</strong><br />

fight Bonavena. I give the edge to <strong>Jerry</strong> in that one but Oscar was one tough<br />

hombre! By the way in Ring Magazine Joe Frazier was quoted as saying after the<br />

first <strong>Quarry</strong> fight " <strong>Quarry</strong> is a hard puncher but I was tagged with stiffer<br />

punches from Bonavena and Ramos" Interesting comment from Smokin' Joe.|<br />

|12/17/02 08:08:09 PM|Jeffery Smith|New Orleans||jls@runbox.com||||7|<strong>Quarry</strong> was<br />

having no trouble hitting the stationary, slow Chuvalo and got distracted, or at<br />

least it appeared that way to me. Chuvalo threw a roundhouse punch that hit<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong> above the temple, jolting his equilibrium. He lost his balance and fell<br />

backwards a bit. Trying to regain his balance, he took about 15 very rapid steps<br />

backward (sort of like the knockdown of James Toney by Roy Jones) and fell on<br />

his butt near the ropes on the other side of the ring. Realizing that he was<br />

still a bit dizzy, he stayed on one knee and jumped up at the count of 10 or<br />

even a bit later. Zack Clayton had to count him out. As Ring magazine said way<br />

back then, "<strong>Jerry</strong> blew it". He had, in fact, knocked Chuvalo back on his heels<br />

just prior to the knockdown.Before the fight, my cousin said "Why are<br />

you guys watching boxing? It's all fixed!". We said "No, Elena, this is the real<br />

thing!". When the fight was over, she walked in and said "Who won?" We said<br />

"Aw, this is all fixed!". :-)It wasn't fixed. Zack was right (but not a<br />

great ref). My votes for the two worst refs in recent history: Johnny LoBiaco<br />

(who let Jose Torres' corner carry him back to his stool instead of counting him

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