January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

egarded in the black community, among those who remember him at all. People
still consider him a redneck, a cracker and white trash. He had plenty of slurs
for his black opponents, some even spoken in public. Roadscholarette, you
are pedantic and you bloviate. Maybe you're a nice woman, but you should know
how you come off to people. Most of your explanations are obviously improvised
and not convincing. You sound like the teacher's pet trying to win brownie
points by gabbing. Anyway, you said the younger Cassius Clay did not face good
opponents. How about Sonny Liston? Floyd Patterson was ranked near the top. So
was Ernie Terrell. Many of his opponents then were. It may be true that some of
them never put together an outstanding career, like Karl Mildenberger, but they
were on the rise when he met them and considered promising. You are judging him
selectively and I suspect with racism. If you were objective, you would
discuss him or anyone else dispassionately. Kent, why the word "stoppage"?
Isn't "stop" a good enough word for you? It was used for many hundreds of years
before someone started saying "stoppage". Who are the Dorseys? Family
friends of the Quarrys? Have a great week, everybody. |
|11/16/03 04:52:43 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|While
watching some old fight tapes, I realised that the most amazing thing about
Frazier's left hook was that it didn't need to be set up by another punch like a
right cross. When he staggered Ali in round 11 of their first fight, it was a
left to the body and then an immediate left hook to the head. In the 15th round
he put Ali down with one left hook and there was no lead-up punch. His left hook
was so powerful a weapon that it stood on its own and Frazier didn't need to get
the opponent's head moving towards it by throwing a right cross. Same thing when
he fought Bob Foster. It was a left to the body and a left hook to the head.
(Even so, I still personally think that Frazier was otherwise overrated.) Ali
didn't have a bad left hook either. That was a single left hook to Bonavena's
head that put him down for the first time in round 15 (but the same punch
wouldn't have put him down in round 1). Someone wrote something about racism on
this site. Seems nonsense to me. Ali's always been my favourite fighter above
anyone else and I have framed photos of him and his fights above my bar.
Anything written about him by others on this site has mostly struck me as
constructive criticism. I can't recall anything with a racist sting being
written. For all we know, RS and Koo Koo might even be black. So what ! And who
cares ? Maybe some of Koo Koo's comments can be misunderstood (or deliberately
misconstrued), but to suggest that RS or Kent or anyone else here is racist is
nonsense. Hey, Massimo - what colour are you ? |
|11/16/03 05:54:41 AM|Massimo|Rome||2||||10|Kent-I think Antonio Tarver
was robbed against Roy Jones. I have him 3 points ahead on my scorecards. I
think a prime Lewis was better than a prime Vitali, but now Vitali is the best
and should be champion.Paul-To be racist it needs to be very bad and
very stupid at the same time. I'm sure nobody is racist on this site. I'm
white.|
|11/16/03 06:29:43 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Thelma - I
had a bit more time to stew over what you wrote. I don't know whether a young
Jerry Quarry made the comments you refer to. I do know that there were things in
my youth that I wish I'd never done or said. And I'm sure there were things in
Muhammad Ali's youth that he regrets as well. For example, Malcolm X and the
Black Muslims had views that were not very complimentary of white people and, by
association, Ali tacitly endorsed them. I think it would be true to say that
Ali's views today have moved on. Same thing with Jerry Quarry were he still
alive. I truly think that your comments about what Jerry may or may not have
said in his youth were very unfair. Same thing if someone were to use ancient
history against Ali. I suppose in hindsight that your comments about Koo Koo are
not ridiculous because, to use a KooKooism, he does not seem to be tightly
wound. But I would be really disappointed if your criticism of RS and Kent was
accurate - and I don't think it is. Anyway, Thelma, you seem to know boxing -