January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

where I'm born " ? PS2; ah, I forgot: Carnera was the greatest ! LOL !|
|11/18/03 12:29:51
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Massimo -
"Where I WAS born." Past tense, since it's already happened.I
love Italian food, even crappy Italian food. The good stuff is a real treat, and
the Chicago area has a lot of good Italian restaurants. I think Italy is a
gorgeous country. I'm a big photographer and would probably take 50 rolls of
film there! The motorcycles (thinking of Ducati) are very fast, but not real
reliable.Have you ever seen Primo and Max Baer fight? They're up and
down off the canvas like a professional wrestling match!|
|11/18/03 05:04:34 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|RS-Ah interesting, I
suspected that saying " where I was born meant that now I was dead. I have seen
about five minutes of Carnera in the ring. This includes about 1 minute of Baer-
Carnera ( a synthesis). I think Baer showed a lot of sadism in that fight,
because he could have won in 3 rounds and instead he decided to torture Carnera
for 11 rounds. I have seen the entire Louis-Baer and Joe made him look an
amateur. Max couldn't avoid one of Joe's left jabs. Probably Primo was better
than Baer stylistically, but Max hit harder.|
|11/18/03 10:42:45 AM|MUFFINMAN|ZANZIBAR||ZANZIB@R||||8|KOO KOO YOU ARE A LOSER
- I KNOW WHO YOU ARE THE OTHER DO NOT. I SEE YOU EVERY DAY FOOL.WHO'S AFRAID?|
|11/18/03 11:12:14
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Massimo -
Yes, there are a number of stories out there about Baer's sadism.
Because he presented himself publicly as a good time, smiley sort of a guy, that
became his image. "Be merry today, for tomorrow you may die," was his signature
statement. People are funny with public figures, particularly in sports and
entertainment. Because (often ~only~ because) someone is a star of some sort,
they have a sort of free pass card to do anything they want within seemingly
endless limits, and have it excused, glossed over, have ridiculous excuses made
for it, or have it ignored completely. It's sort of sad to watch people so empty
themselves that they have to continue to lionize someone who's obviously a bum.|
|11/18/03 07:41:28 PM|Jonny Q|New York||JohnQW@yahoo.com||||10|I don’t agree
that Baer was a cruel personality. I’ve ready about Baer over the years,
including Nat Fleischer’s book, who wrote based on knowing Baer in person,
rather than judging him from rumors. Fleischer, described Baer as a comedian and
prankster during his career, and generous (as most fighters are) and charitable
after his career was over. Was Baer hurtful at times to people around him?
Probably. Name me a fighter/entertainer who hasn’t been. Marciano rubbed
shoulders with mod figures, Ali made openly racist statements and belittled
Frazier for years, Foreman was a bully in and out of the ring in his early
career. Tyson . . . well, his record speaks for itself. Baer didn’t
torture Carnera in their fight. I have the film too. At his best, Baer had a
right a hard as Foreman, but when the action got wild, he missed most of his
punches. Baer went all out after Carnera, who was much tougher than historians
give him credit for. Carnera not only survived the early battering; he actually
came back in the middle rounds and had Baer on the defensive several times.
Throughout the entire fight, you can see Baer and Carnera insulting each other
between the exchanges. When the fight was stopped, both fighters were exhausted
and Carnera was still on his feet. I read that Baer and Carnera did an
exhibition in the late 40s or early 50s. Baer was living the party life at the
time, but Carnera was in shape and made a great showing. Afterwards Baer said,
“I’m sure glad we’re weren’t fighting for the title tonight.”|
|11/18/03 09:24:04 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|muffin man,
theres nothing you can do to upset me, if i can fool kent, i can fool you, hey
kent remember what that shoeshine man said we all walk hand in hand, kent knows
what i mean :)))))))))))|
|11/18/03 10:58:11 PM|tim|upstate new