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dishes on their hands, they were so slow. I honestly think he would have<br />

unraveled against Frazier, or several other opponents from career two. Foreman<br />

would have been Liston on LSD, and would have knocked him out, as would have<br />

Frazier too, most likely.By the time he fought the second time, his body<br />

had matured, he was much more centered emotionally, was able to process his<br />

experience in the ring and internalize it usefully as a ~man~ does, not like a<br />

silly adolescent as he was as Clay, and as Ali, he’d discovered his crowning<br />

virtue/curse – the ability to take a punch as no one ever has, ever. Consider<br />

that as athletic as the man was, it was, in the end, his ability to take a punch<br />

that allowed him to get by with so many things that he did, and to appear<br />

brilliant doing them.|<br />

|9/25/03 11:23:17 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|<strong>The</strong> Earnie<br />

Shavers verses Jimmy Young first fight is listed as Earnie winning by 1st round<br />

TKO over Young at the Boxing Records Archive at boxrec.com. It is possible this<br />

listing is incorrect as I remember seeing somewhere else the bout listed as<br />

Shavers winning by TKO in round number three. <strong>The</strong> second listing, I believe, is<br />

correct. Shavers and Young fought to a draw the second time around.|<br />

|9/25/03 12:41:59 PM|Massimo|Rome||e||||10|I think the Ali' that beat Cl.<br />

Williams would have beaten any fighter ever ! Of corse, Williams wasn't a great<br />

champion, but Ali' was really awesome that night ! Maybe that was his best<br />

fight !|<br />

|9/25/03 02:56:01 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|ESPN classic<br />

showed Ali verses Patterson 1 this week. What a pitiful but brave performance<br />

that Patterson put on. I could tell by the way Patterson moved that something<br />

wasn't right with him. Of course his back had gone out early in the fight and<br />

he not only had to endure a tremedous beating at the hands of Ali, it hurt him<br />

just as bad to throw punches. It is amazing he stayed up for twelve rounds.<br />

His corner or the referee should have stopped the bout as soon as the sixth<br />

round when it was obvious he didn't have a chance of winning. <strong>The</strong>re was no need<br />

for him to take so much punishment. On a couple of occasions, a cornerman can<br />

be seen lifting him up to try and help his ailing back but it did no<br />

good.Of the rounds I saw, as some of them weren't on the program aired<br />

on ESPN, I only gave Patterson one round, the first round. Ali did not land a<br />

single punch and while Patterson only landed a couple of ineffective left hooks<br />

and maybe two or so body shots in the round, he was pressing the action<br />

throuhout the round. I haven't seen the scorecards for this fight but it<br />

wouldn't surprise me if the judges gave Ali round one because he is Ali, not<br />

because he did anything in the round. No fighter should be given a round for<br />

not doing anything but dancing around. Of course, Ali controlled the rest of<br />

the action in the fight with constant left jabs and fast combinations but he did<br />

not do this in the first round. |<br />

|9/25/03 03:42:01<br />

PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|I wonder how Ali<br />

would have felt had Larry Holmes humiliated him, dancing around, as Ali used to<br />

do (and Leonard), showboating, and just punching the bag?I think these<br />

one sided things should be stopped. People get hooked on the Hollywood miracle<br />

punch, and think it happens all the time, while actually, it rarely does. Of<br />

course, fans would be upset with early stoppages, and some would say the fix was<br />

in, but what can you do? <strong>The</strong>re are always massacres in which fans will say their<br />

man was in the fight, once in a while even that he was winning. |<br />

|9/25/03 05:04:56 PM|Massimo|Rome||e||||10|Did anyone see Ali'-Mac Foster and<br />

Ali'-Chuvalo 2 ? Were those beautiful fights ?Did Ali' deserve to win both<br />

fights ?|<br />

|9/25/03 06:06:20<br />

PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|I've seen the<br />

second Ali-Chuvalo fight, and it was one of the most exciting boxing matches<br />

anyone could hope to see - a real slugfest. I truly don't know where

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