January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

think the point is well taken---if a guy gets busted up in the ring, he's
rugged/weathered and still appealing but if a woman gets busted up and scarred,
they're not attractive to us! If I had a daughter, I'd rather see her sell Mary
Kay than step in with Christy Martin but on the other hand, I wouldn't want a
son to get battered by Lennox Lewis either! On another topic, how good was
Thad Spencer? I was too young to remember seeing him fight at the time, but
from what I've heard, he was quite good.I read somewhere where boxing
analysts thought he had all the tools to make it to a title fight, including an
imposing physical stature and good fundamentals. |
|9/16/03 04:53:01 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz11@msn.com||||10|Some
interesting comments on Liston. Like Tyson, a very used fighter with no choice
but to play the game he was drawn into, it may have even got him killed. Ali-
Liston 2 was a real retirement party for Sonny, who was treated as old hat. As
weird as the bout was, it couldn't go any other way. Liston was highly favored
in the first fight, was full of his own hype, and no one knew how good Ali
really was yet, they hoped Liston would shut him up and send Ali away, Ali's
mouth was the only reason the bout ever happened. I have Liston as top Ten all-
time, just a brutal fighter, and better than Frazier. Massimo, Douglas's win
over Tyson is arguably the greatest upset ever in heavyweight boxing, a lot had
to happen. Tyson was lost without Cus D'Amato, Douglas was pumped by the passing
of his mother. I think Carl The Truth may have briefly shown the formula for
beating Tyson: height, a good jab, movement, but also a real punch. Under normal
conditions, a sounder Tyson would have knocked the less-conditioned trial horse
Douglas out easily. Also, Holyfield was scared silly of Tyson's power, which is
why he clinched Tyson so much. The confused Tyson, awaiting the ref's help,
could not fire back. Also to be fair, Foreman would undoubtedly have the power
to KO Tyson, but again I have Tyson as better. Floyd Patterson was a great
fighter, I know JQ respected him a great deal, just not a great heavyweight. I
beleive he won an Olympic Gold as a middleweight back in 1952, even 190 lbs. is
a big climb from there, especially in an era before weightlifting. I beleive at
one time JQ was a baseball prospect. I wished Jerry had lifted a little so that
he could better handle the size of Ali, Norton. Frazier is better than either
Klitschko at this point, as for them meeting, it's a toss-up. Both could really
swat, both would not be hard to hit, both could take a punch.It'd be messy...
Mosely-De La Hoya may have gone the way it did for the betting, maybe some in
boxing are tired of Oscar and want to bring him down a few pegs. Mosely had some
telling punches, Oscar appeared out-box him, was certainly very close. Mosely, I
believe, is 32 to Oscar's 30. Oscar, like Holyfield and Lewis, has every reason
to retire, but will he see it? Odds are, no. Jerry Quarry had the same option a
few times. Most boxers of Oscar's caliber can't get out of the ring until they
absorb a good beating. Even Ali had to have one. Damiani was a good heavyweight,
I have Carnera as Italy's #1 heavy. Gianfranco Rossi is another Italian fighter
I've liked. My two cents, Kareem over Shaq all-time. But Kareem would have real
problems with Shaq's size/strength. I have Kareem second only to Wilt. I'm not a
Laker fan, rooting for their loaded club is like rooting for the Yankees, or
Microsoft. Thanks. |
|9/16/03 05:27:09 PM|Angelo|Washington,
DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Gerry:At this point, I have Kareem over Shaq as
well. Kareem was way more consistent and less injury prone and for my money, a
smarter player. I agree with you that Wilt was the best, but where to you rate
Russel? You can't ignore all those titles! But back to boxing: Yes, a prime
Liston beats a prime Frazier. Yes, Ali was the greatest, but the second Liston
fight was shady.No, I don't think Tyson was better than Foreman. In his
prime, I think Foreman would have teed off on Tyson early. Foreman seemed to
have a style that pounded out shorter sluggers in short order. I think Tyson
would have had lots of trouble with Foreman's reach, and would have been hit
with that telephone pole jab easily. If Tyson came right at Foreman, I think