January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

teatment. Will return in a week or so.Evren|
|9/22/02 11:44:52 PM|Kent Appel|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Evren,
if you are still here, I think Bob voted for Louis over Foreman. Which means we
may need someone else to decide the final verdict. Anyone else want to write in
and vote as to who you think would win, Foreman or Louis, prime versus prime.|
|9/23/02 10:54:29 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|I picked Louis to KO
Foreman.|
|9/23/02 11:51:43 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|I don't think
Zannon took a dive. He just had a style that always gave Jerry trouble. If you
remember, Randy Neuman was doing very well against Jerry till he got ko'd.
Against Zanon, Jerry was just very rusty and I believe it was the first and only
time Richard Giachetti was in his corner. |
|9/24/02 09:05:17 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz@firstam.com||||9|I well-
remember JQ's fight with Zanon, Jerry was not Lyle-Shavers caliber at all,
looked sluggish. Zanon was sharp but could not hurt Jerry enough to win.I don't
know that Jerry won a single round, but he finally caught him and that was it. I
was glad to hear he'd retired after. No dive, guys. Zanon got nailed. |
|9/24/02 10:07:31 PM|Steve Morris|Oaklyn,N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Since
were down to the last matchup of the tournament,maybe now we can address the
rope-a-dope!I've brought this subject up before without a response.Can it
possibly be legal to lean outside the ropes to the extent that your opponent
literally cannot reach your head with his punches? Can anyone tell me those
ropes weren't illegally loose? C'mon,I agree Ali was a great fighter and
arguably the best heavyweight except for the way he began and ended his
career.No one will ever convince me the two Liston fights and the Foreman fight
were on the up-and-up.I think Liston was coerced by the "mob",and the Zaire
fight was decided by even more powerful racial and political factions in both
Zaire and the United States.Odd that I've never seen ropes that loose
again,except maybe in the Foreman vs Jimmy Young fight.|
|9/25/02 06:55:36 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|I respectfully
disagree on the part about the Ali-Foreman fight being fixed. Maybe Liston took
a dive -- nothing he would do would surprise me. Call me naive, but I honestly
think that for the most part, the big fights are on the level. If boxing was
fixed, Cooney would have beaten Holmes. Everyone was drooling for a white money
maker like him and he fizzled. Just my opinion.|
|9/25/02 09:50:48 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Steve, yes the
ropes were loose in the Ali/Foreman fight, but I don't think they were as much
of a factor as the media has led us to believe. After seeing the fight again
recently, I was surprised how active Ali was during the whole fight. I had
remembered him spending a lot of time leaning out to avoid Foreman's punches but
when I saw the fight again, Ali was punching more than I remembered and about
the only round he was really leaning back soley was in the fifth round. Yes Ali
had his back to the ropes in much of the fight, but Ali was counter punching
and giving Foreman angles and beating him to the punch a lot of the time. It was
a good strategy as Ali knew he couldn't dance for the entire fight. Ali was also
tying Foreman up by grabbing his a lot. I think one of the main things that did
Foreman in was the heat. Remember it was held at 4 am in the morning, Zaire
time, and the temp was still over 80 degrees Fairenheit.|
|9/25/02 02:10:37 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|As a side note, I
saw Jimmy Young fightAli. Young got robbed big time. And therewas not
even talk of a rematch.|
|9/25/02 05:33:10 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|I don't think either
Liston fight was fixed. Liston got tired chasing Ali around and quit. Liston
kept up with Ali for most of the fight and caught him a couple of times, he just
didn't have it in him to continue. In the second fight he got caught by Ali
with a right hand as he was coming in to jab, with his left foot off the canvas,
off balance. It was a fast flush shot that shook him up and set him down. I