January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|8/10/03 04:38:56 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|HEY Forest how you doing? i'll tell you
my man JQ sure could come off the canvas to score knockouts,Joe Alexander,AL
"Memphis" Jones(and a broken jaw and 4 lost teeth).Alexander said Jerry was they
only one he ever fought,that got up to win,you can also throw in Rufus
Brassell,although Quarry was decked after the bell.Jerry even got off the canvas
to kayo Roy Crear in San Antonio.|
|8/10/03 04:57:51 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|FOREST: As always "SMOKIN" JOE FRAZIER
always had that fire,you are talking about,only Foreman bounced him out,(of
course never fought Lyle,Shavers)I was 14 when he fought Jerry in '74.i'd
already been fighting amateur at a place now called the Dome, and lived
boxing,already had over a hundred boxing mags etc.Anyway the day Jerry signed
for FRAZIER,My uncle had the names wrong,and told me '"HEY YOUR BOY'S FIGHTING
FOR THE TITLE VS FOREMAN" I was elated,then found out it was Frazier,bummed
out,my uncle saidWhy u so down in the dumps,I said Jerry needed to be fighting
Bonavena,or Bugner or Henry Clark. Anybody but JOE (he needed Joe like a hole in
the head).One of the few times i'd wished I WAS WRONG!! TAKE CARE.|
|8/11/03 09:27:34 AM|Kent|La Habta, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Forest, it is
not illogical to say that Holmes' title defense agaisnt Cooney was one of his
more difficult title defenses. After all, it was one of his fights where he
lost a fair ammount of rounds. When the defense took place has a lot to
do with the merit of his opponent's performance. Only four of Holmes 13
defenses between 1978 and 1982 could be termed difficult, Shavers, Snipes,
Weaver, and yes, Cooney. This was during Holmes' prime. Witherspoon occured in
1983 and it could be included in this period as it is close to it. But it is the
only controversial decision during this period. The Williams defense however
happened in 1985 when Holmes was already on the way down, skill-wise, and M.
Spinks caught Larry at the right moment. Cooney's performance in 1982 may very
well have beaten Holmes circa 1985 or 86. Why is it hard to agree that Cooney
had one good fight in him, the Holmes fight? Remember, I agree with you that
Cooney was a limited fighter.|
|8/11/03 02:51:29 PM|Forest Ward|South Carolina||joekevin@cs.com||||10|Hi Kent I
did not write that it was illogical to say that one of Holmes's tougher
defense's was against Cooney.I wrote that it is illogical to give Cooney a pass
on the Spinks and Foreman fights because Cooney had a drug habit. It is not
fair to Spinks or Foreman to cheapen their victory over Cooney just because
Cooney did not train as he should have. Spinks and Foreman were dedicated
fighters. Cooney was partying and getting high, they wanted it more, and they
deserve the credit for their victories. Kent, come on is really fair to Foreman
and Spinks not to count their victories, because Cooney was hooked on drugs and
alcohol?Kent, I have a problem with saying Cooney had a "good" fight
against Holmes. Good compared to what: Scot Frank, Ossie Ocasio... If that is
your barometer fine. It's not mine. Cooney was knocked down in the second
round. Cooney was exhausted after the 10th round; and stopped in the 13th
round. I don't see that as good. Holmes played Cooney like a violin. I have no
doubts Holmes could have stopped him sooner if Holmes so desired. Kent,
to look at my philosophy from a different perspective, lets look at Jerry
Quarry. Jerry is highly regarded on this site for many reasons. Most notably
for beating good fighters resoundingly in their primes, or damn near close to
their primes: Spencer, Mathis, Foster, Lyle, Shavers, among others. All #1
fighters at the time of their defeats by Jerry Quarry. If "all" we had to judge
Jerry Quarry was his noble loss to Frazier in their 1st fight would we be
singing his praises as many (not you Kent) on this site do for Cooney. I think
not. Granted Cooney had a good a left hook, but that's it. He did not
have the drive and courage it takes to be a genuine good or great fighter. When
one looks at Cooney's career, it's all in many peoples eyes a great "oh what