January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

oth fighters relied heavily on intimidating their opponents.I do not believe
Liston ever faced anyone even close to the physical skill level of Joe
Louis.Liston was a great fighter and probably belongs in the top 20
heavywieghts.That said,I still think Louis was quicker, a better combination
puncher,tougher,and may have hit just as hard as Liston.I pick Joe L ouis by tko
in eleven or twelve rounds.|
|8/14/02 04:01:08 PM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|In my last post I
forgot to factor in Sonny Liston's very long armed,accurate and powerful
jab.This would not have changed the outcome of the fight but would have made it
even more exciting.A question for everyone's analysis,who had the most effective
jab of all era's? Effective meaning it played a large part in the fighter's
victory. In terms of speed,accuracy,and power,and ability to cause damage,cuts,
swelling, ect.|
|8/14/02 04:13:54 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Just watched
on ESPN Classic Jerry verses Norton and Jerry verses Frazier 2. We have
recently discussed that Jerry was on the way down when he fought Norton and was
not in his best condition but still gave Norton a good fight, in the first three
rounds at least. In Frazier/Quarry 2, Jerry boxed very well in the first round
but seemed to abandon a good plan of moving and counter punching after that. It
made for some great action of Jerry and Frazier going toe to toe, it became a
war, but Frazier was in complete control by round four on the way to a fifth
round TKO win. Did Jerry go away from his plan of boxing instead of slugging
because as the announcer said, Frazier would not let him move or was it because
Jerry was stubborn and chose to slug it out with Frazier? I think it may have
been a combination of both.|
|8/14/02 07:51:04 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz@firstam.com||||9|I just
recently watched Joe Frazier vs. Ron Stander on ESPN, after two rounds it was
tough to watch. I give Joe a lot of credit for the way he trained, his courage
and attitude as a fighter, and how well grounded he was/is out of the ring.
During their day, I cheered for both he and Jerry about equally because he came
across well as a good guy and an overacheiver. But I do not see him beating
Tyson, a harder, quicker puncher who could do Joe like Foreman did. Joe would be
tougher and more skilled, but also easier to hit. While I prefer Joe, I have to
be honest... As for Liston/Louis, I do feel Joe was the fighter of the century
because of the way he conducted himself, that he united people in a tumultuous
era, and he stood for the country even when it did not for him. Again, I have to
pick the villain, Liston , though. Joe, from the waist down, was like most
fighters of his era, not mobile, but was a punching machine from the waist up.
Liston was bigger, stronger, very intimidating and just as methodical, plus he
had that ridiculous jab, which required a movemnet fighter, an Ali, to avoid.
The good guys lose both of these, in my opinion. Great fantasy bouts, though. |
|8/14/02 08:05:15 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz@firstam.com||||10|Also, to
answer Kent and Steve, I feel Jerry had two real flaws in an otherwise
outstanding package, 1) low hands 2) an instinct to brawl that squashed good
tactical opportunities. He had Frazier early in their first fight, and figured
that he could continue to push and trade with him. The Norton fight shows
flashes of what Jerry could have done if they'd fought sooner, but does not come
close to prime vs. prime, which is about even. I think if you want to look at
a fighter who built a great game around the jab, Larry Holmes might be the guy.
Ali was amazing, but also had so many other weapons. Holmes really managed his
opponents with the jab, I think.|
|8/16/02 09:47:44 AM|RONNYRAINS|VENTURA CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|I
agree, Jerry held his hands low,Even when he punched, he'd hold em' low and
punch again,(mac Foster).I personally think both he and Frazier would have given
"Iron" Mike tyson, all sorts of hell,Tyson"s intimadation factor would not be in
effect,"iron" or aluminum, Always lose's in that aspect Where larry holmes,was
the most underrated CHAMP, "Aluminum Mike" was the most overated, back to where