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January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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to Chuvalo, I've read where <strong>Jerry</strong> was clearly depressed after these fights.<br />

Muhammed Ali and Joe Frazier both seemed to be waiting for <strong>Jerry</strong> when JQ ran off<br />

a string of wins, but the press seemed to still be punishing <strong>Jerry</strong> and did not<br />

seem to give <strong>Jerry</strong> credit for becoming a better fighter in the 70's, I think.<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong>'s record does show some real inconsistency, attitude must be a big factor<br />

in this. After 1975, it seemed <strong>Jerry</strong> did not get nearly the credit for his<br />

performances that he began to get in the 90's and still gets now. Did <strong>Jerry</strong>'s<br />

early hype prevent him from fairly getting a title shot against Foreman? What<br />

kind of attitude did <strong>Jerry</strong> have going into the Norton fight? Like FrazierI, an<br />

unrealism seems to exist, where he can take a fight with a major contender on<br />

two weeks notice, go in out of shape and expect to beat him. Again, as with<br />

Frazier, there are some great moments, particularly round 3. JQ 's boxing talent<br />

in hugely obvious, all considered. But his attitude through all this, high and<br />

low, is something I'd like to know more about. <strong>The</strong>re are some who've said <strong>Jerry</strong><br />

made a lot of excuses and was not grounded enough to learn from these few losses<br />

and draws to become what he had the talent to become, champion. I ask these<br />

questions as a real fan of this guy, believe me. Any replies? |<br />

|12/16/03 04:12:18 AM|Paul|Sydney||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Until the Iraqi<br />

Information Minister confirms his identity, how can we be sure that the right<br />

guy was captured ? ((((:|<br />

|12/16/03 09:39:19 AM|Angelo|Washington,<br />

DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Gerry:Two of <strong>Jerry</strong>'s greatest wins were against<br />

Lyle and Shavers. In my opinion, at the time, people knew they were nice,<br />

impressive wins---but thought that maybe Lyle and Shavers "must have been<br />

overrated for <strong>Quarry</strong> to beat them." Well, both of these guys picked up the<br />

pieces and continued on with their careers. Both of them got title shots and<br />

fought very well in these bouts against Ali. Lyle had the epic slugfest with<br />

Foreman. Shavers floored Larry Holmes---arguably one of the best Champions<br />

ever. Shavers KOed Norton in one round. In other words, it took a few years<br />

for people to realize that both Shavers and Lyle really were very good fighters<br />

and they proved themselves AFTER <strong>Quarry</strong> beat them. |<br />

|12/16/03 10:38:36 AM|Pete|USA||pco@intel||||10|"<strong>The</strong>re are some who've said<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong> made a lot of excuses and was not grounded enough to learn from these few<br />

losses and draws to become what he had the talent to become, champion. I ask<br />

these questions as a real fan of this guy, believe me. Any replies?<br />

"(QUOTE)As great a fighter as <strong>Jerry</strong> was, I don't think that he was<br />

championship material. I don't mean any disrespect to <strong>Jerry</strong> or his many fans,<br />

but <strong>Jerry</strong> was a guy that champions had to get past, to become champions. When<br />

you consider how many heavyweights actually go on to become champions(not<br />

including these phoney paper champions & federations designed to make big money<br />

for promoters, while ripping off boxing fans), <strong>Jerry</strong> was very close to being<br />

there. When we start making excuses for fighters, we lose objectivity. Everyone<br />

here holds <strong>Jerry</strong> in high esteem; we liked his attitude, many of his fights were<br />

classic fights of the "GOLDEN ERA" of heavyweight boxing and he looked good, in<br />

and out of the ring. Unfortunately, he was not an Ali, Frazier or Holmes.|<br />

|12/16/03 11:15:48<br />

AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Possibly even more<br />

than the other forms of entertainment, athletes are victims of a Walter Mitty<br />

meat grinder created by a public that lives in shades of black and white - first<br />

place or last, winner and loser, ignoring their own travails across the range of<br />

human experience. It's sort of like creating Gods in a laboratory, and hoping we<br />

hit the jackpot of perfection and immortality, and will be allowed to ride in<br />

the car if we can ever figure out how to build it. Even those who endure and<br />

reach the top are recycled and subjected to a hierarachal rating system against<br />

others who did likewise, or hypothetical comparison to people who didn't, or who<br />

they never met; when someone makes it through the gauntlet, it's as if "we" want<br />

to then deny them if we can't come too.Massimo -Well, a person

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