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course, it's all just speculation. Foster at a natural 210, Monzon or Duran the
same, if there was a proportionate increase in power, and they were still as
quick, would be fearsome fighters. Strength is a funny thing. A human is
stronger than a horse, pound for pound, and an ant is stronger than an NFL
lineman, by the same standards. A 100 pound ape is as strong as a 300 pound man.
Speaking of strength, there's a gorilla at a Chicago area zoo - Brookfield -
that not only throws tractor tires around, but got P-offed once, and turned one
inside out! Wow!Re your posting about Ali, Paul - it's always tempting
to take great little guys and shine a Martian growth ray on them, turning them
into heavyweight scourges, while at the same time, dismissing the regular
heavies. While Ali was not a killer puncher, ala Foreman, Frazier, Dempsey, or
Shavers, etc., I think a strong case could be made for him being best pound for
pound too. There was never, ever a smarter, more creative, or craftier fighter
than Ali. People look at him as a model of the stylistic boxer, but I submit
that he was anything but. He was a ~fighter~! The most versatile, adaptible man
ever to enter the ring. Maybe he made some fundamental mistakes, but the
~Fighter~ reigned supreme, rendering those irrelevant. He was smooth, dirty,
tough, indestructible, fast, and fought with his mind like few others.I
tend to look at heavies in terms of how they'd have done in either the first or
third Ali-Frazier fights, against those two, those nights. In my mind, only
those two, or Foreman could have survived. I can't think of another boxer, in
any division who fought and beat both the number or the caliber of opponents
than Ali did. If he'd had Foreman's punch, they'd have made him illegal!|
|10/24/03 01:53:16 PM|Massimo|Rome||j||||10|RS-I think a brawl between
that gorilla and Calvin Lane would be very interesting ! Do you know that Calvin
can bench press 385 lbs ? He is a living legend !!I can't understand why
nobody mentions Ali'-Frazier 2. I have seen the last 5 rounds of that fight and
was every bit as good as the other two fights ! Frazier, in my mind, fought
slightly better than Ali' in those 5 rounds.|
|10/24/03 01:58:36
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Massimo -
It wasn't a bad fight at all. Not as hyped as the first and third, and
not ~as~ good as those two, but nothing to kick out of bed either, even if it
did eat crackers! :-) Ali learned from the first, and held Frazier relentlessly,
something that was not curtailed one bit by the incompetent referee. They might
as well have had some punchy X-champion as the third man in the ring. Ali
probably won narrowly, though neither man was at his best.Some of the
drugged out NFL behemoths can bench press 500-600 pounds for reps, and are
frighteningly strong men, near gorillas. They're fast too, moving like ballet
dancers, rather than the bearlike men they are in appearance. Heart attacks
waiting to happen too.|
|10/24/03 04:23:39 PM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|The Ali,
Frazier, and Foreman era of the 1970s was a great period for boxing and the
sport was so lucky to have it followed up in the next decade by Leonard, Hagler,
Hearns and Duran. All of those guys were true warriors, they attracted
controversy and fans, and boxing became fundamentally strong. The 1990s weren't
as good and if not for Tyson boxing may have gone way backwards. At the moment
boxing seems to be treading water and going nowhere. The other period in boxing
I reckon would have been fantastic to live through was the fifties with
Robinson, La Motta, Turpin, Zale, Basilio, with all the wars those guys fought.
Koo Koo Clock - I like Kent too. I like to see both of you posting. |
|10/24/03 05:12:16 PM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|RS-Before Ali'-Frazier 1, do
you think Ali' was really aware of Frazier's greatness or not ? In the pre-fight
interviewes he said "It's gonna be an easy fight ! I'll KO Frazier in 6".
RS, my English teacher, I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you meant
from " nothing to kick out the bed... To crackers". Kick out the bed ? What's
that staff ? Is that similar to" kick the bed "? I understand what "kicking