January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

if it had gone the distance, and Ali had won, he wasn't going to look good doing
it, and he ~had~ to look good. Jose Torres feels Ali would have won, but was
going to look lousy, and get hit a lot. Solution? "OK, Ali, this sonuvabitch has
a head like concrete, so you aint gonna knock him out. This is gonna be a long
night. Butt him, he cuts easy." Can you envision this conversation in the Ali
corner? Quarry wouldn't likely have initiated a butt. He knew Ali had never bled
before, and a butt could have opened a cut on his own face.George
Foreman was a better fighter after ten years, when you factor in his age. He had
better technique, and he had mind memory for the moves, even though his body
couldn't put some into play any longer. Ali's layoff? Probably did him some
good, yet this was used as an excuse even years after he returned. A
refrigerator like Bonavena made everyone look bad, so there was the excuse
there. But Frazier? He cleaned Ali's clock. Yes, he took a lot of abuse doing
it, but I personally think we saw Ali at his best that night. I think Joe would
have knocked out the butterfly of career one. IMO anyway, and that's all any of
us have in theoretical scenarios in a subjective sport. And, I like Ali
too, as a fighter. In top form, few could beat him, and I don't believe any
could in a best of three, though of course, dark questions always have to come
in. The Phillipine judges had Manilla 8-4 after 12 for Ali. I wonder if they
decided on this ahead of the fight, 'cause I had it 6-5-1, ~maybe~ even 7-5
Frazier, at that juncture. Oh well, just armchair reffing, who knows, huh?|
|11/13/03 02:12:37 PM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|Maybe I'm just an ingenuous man, but
I have seen Ali'-Foreman several times and I have never noted anything wrong in
that fight... It was one of the best fights in heavyweight history and, in
particular, the fifth round was wonderful. Was Foreman drunk ? I think that
night he would have beaten any fighter ever, but Ali'. If they were able to
change a fixed fight in one of the best fights ever, they were the two best
actors in the wordl ! Some of the punches Foreman threw that night would have
killed a whale...I think his reaction against his cornermen was caused by the
fact that he needed a guilty for his defeat !|
|11/13/03 02:15:47 PM|Massimo|Rome||8||||10|The only strange thing in that fight
were the loose ropes. Who did want that the ropes were loose ? Ali' ? Giulio
Andreotti ?|
|11/13/03 03:09:43 PM|FRAN|PA||Plc7755@aol.com||||10|Foreman claimed after the
fight that his people gave him a grapefruit that made him drowsy afterwards. HE
theorized at the time that something may have been injected into it. How could
the fight be allowed to take place with the ropes that loose. Ali was in the 3rd
row at ringside sippin a coke while foreman was pounding away at his arms.
Mass for a great fight you should have seen the Jerry Quarry / Mac Foster
fight at the Garden. Unbelievable Foster ahead going into the sixth and Jerry
comes out and just freezes and Foster was confused and pawed a few jabs n Jerry
started counterpunching it took about an hour to find Fosters head it was
rolling around in the second deck. Anyway I like you guys RS you should be a
writer you write beutifully and I would enjoy reading anything you write,
especcially about Jerry.|
|11/13/03 03:29:01 PM|Massimo|Rome||9||||10|Fran-So Foreman's people
wanted that Foreman lost ? That's a betrayal !!!!! Unfortunately I have never
seen Quarry-Mac Foster... I have seen just about half an hour of Jerry Quarry in
the ring but it was enough to understand that he was one of the most exciting
fighters ever !|
|11/13/03 04:20:25 PM|Fran|PA||plc7755@aol.com||||10|Mass we have to get you
some films. When I was kid I used to watch Jerry Quarry Frazier one over n
over. That was a fight. Jerry was a tough Kid. |
|11/13/03 04:33:58 PM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|It wouldn't
have mattered what Ali and Foreman did in Zaire, the ref was NEVER going to stop
the fight by disqualification. The crowd would have rioted and the ref would not
have got out of there alive. So Ali held on, held on, and held on, while Foreman