January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

used as a criterion between them,then I disagree.I don't fully understand what
happened there,but it's not a good yardstick.|
|12/19/03 02:00:22 AM|steve |N.J.||drmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Gerry,I never
heard that one!! That Ali even mentioned the "Quarry women", in any way.That
would seem to be highly inapropriate,even for pre fight hype.I did,however,hear
that something along those lines took place preceding the Norton fight.All this
leads me to believe,if your wife is insulted,hire a lawyer!|
|12/19/03 03:20:26 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Hi Steve - my
view is that Frazier's absolute hatred of Ali drove him to superhuman efforts in
those three fights. In my opinion, if you took the hatred away, and Ali was just
another opponent, then no contest. And (this is only my view, RS, so take a
couple of deep breaths and calm yourself) if you take the three Ali fights out
of Frazier's resume, you don't really have a lot left. I just can't accept that
Frazier was one of the all time greats. He didn't fight often enough and, unlike
Ali, he didn't fight the best on offer. As I posted once before, there are big
gaps in Joe's career, especially after he began fighting Ali. It seemed like he
could only get himself up for the Ali fights. And it also seemed like it took
him a lot longer to recover than it took Ali. Have a look at Joe's resume and
take note of all the top heavies he never fought that Ali faced one after the
other. Joe was running around fighting exhibitions when Ali was doing the real
thing. Also, the depth of Frazier's hatred of Ali was there for all to see when
he sneered and laughed at the debilitating effects of Ali's medical condition
(even though Joe slurs his words, too). The way I see it, Ali had all the tools
and he didn't need hatred's help. However this is only my view as a boxing
enthusiast and I mean no offense by it and I have been wrong before, but I just
think that Joe was overrated. Cheers.|
|12/19/03 10:08:36 AM|charles anderson|ark.||ctjjandfam@aol.com||||10|i'm going
to change gears just for a second. let us take time out to remember our troops
and their loved ones this holiday season.my son will be going to iraQ in jan.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!|
|12/19/03 10:49:34
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Steve -As
I've long said, "classic boxer" was an illusion fosterd by Ali's speed - he was
a brawler, not a boxer. You're right about Manila. Very little ~boxing~ on his
part, and of ~course~ no point deductions for the Saint. Even with an eye
pounded shut, Frazier would have taken Ali in the 15th (if MA had even been able
to get off his stool). I never heard that either, about Ali saying anything to
or about the Quarry women. What did he do, compliment them?Paul -
You must be related to Ali, or have pictures of him all over your walls.
I never said George was in on the fix, but fix it was, sorry. Frazier had
already beaten the crap out of him twice - no way they were going to let George
inflict the humiliation of a 10 count on their baby.|
|12/19/03 11:03:21
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Charles -
My good thoughts for all those overseas are on the wind as we speak! So,
what about your son? Army, Marines, Air Force? How old is he? What does he have
to say? Boy, talk about carrying a weight on your back at Christmas, knowing
you're shipping out in January! I can't imagine the loneliness of being in a
strange land for months on end at ~any~ time of the year, much less at
Christmas. |
|12/19/03 11:36:38 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|You guys
have GOT to be kidding. You really think Frazier would have KOed Ali in Manila
if there was a 15th round? Frazier would have been the one knocked out.
Frazier's corner saved his eyesight and maybe more when they stopped it. I've
watched the fight several times and truly believe this. As for Frazier vs.
Holmes---I agree that this would be fascinating. Holmes never faced anyone who
would put so much pressure on him. Holmes DID face bigger punchers, like Earnie