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January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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that caught <strong>Jerry</strong> off balance not a left hook. I don't remember any exchanges<br />

because it didn't seem like Chuvallo could move with <strong>Jerry</strong>. I'd like to see the<br />

film again. <strong>Jerry</strong> dominated and outclassed Chuvallo the whole fight except for<br />

what was a flash knockdown. <strong>Jerry</strong> got right up because it was what it was a<br />

flashknockdown. He was told to take the 8 count. |<br />

|11/24/03 07:00:32 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Fran - Hopefully the <strong>Quarry</strong> website<br />

will load a clip - that would be nice. |<br />

|11/24/03 07:24:10 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|I look at<br />

it this way: When two boxers meet, it doesn't matter who the better fighter is-<br />

--it only matters who the better fighter is on that particular day. In other<br />

words, I don't care how much better Mike Tyson might have been than James<br />

Douglas. Douglas was superior the night they met. I think back to <strong>Jerry</strong>'s<br />

career---and I believe he did enough to beat Ellis. <strong>The</strong>re are people, including<br />

Kent, who believe Norton beat Ali at Yankee Stadium. This is different---these<br />

are examples of contested decisions. But I'm referring more to upsets or guys<br />

who lost because of "the flu," "a knee injury," etc. If you're standing there<br />

when the bell rings, and the other guy KO's you or wins a clear decision, there<br />

aren't any excuses. It's why Mike Weaver was better than Tate, Ali was better<br />

than Foreman, and yes, on that night in 1971, hard as it is for me to admit,<br />

Frazier was clearly better than Ali. |<br />

|11/24/03 07:58:57 PM|KOOKOO|NY||KOOKOOCLOCK000@YAHOO.COM||||10|OK, HERE GOES,<br />

I'VE SEEN BLACK GUYS ALL MY LIFE THAT HAVE MUSCLES, NEVER LIFTED ONE WEIGHT, IT<br />

IS JUST NATURAL, JUST A FACT, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AS A RACIST<br />

STATEMENT, WHITES JUST AREN'T THE ATHLETES THAT BLACKS ARE, THATS THE BIOLOGY OF<br />

IT, THATS WHAT JERRY WAS UP AGAINST, I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE HERE TO AGREE, THAT<br />

WOULD NOT BE PC. KOO KOO |<br />

|11/24/03 08:31:29<br />

PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|I argued this<br />

point on another forum once. <strong>The</strong> thing is that many people are so full of<br />

PCness, are such parrots who learn what the right thing is to say, that they<br />

don't bother to observe and to think. Why is it racist to say what every sports<br />

fan knows and what the athletes themselves know? If blacks are more genetically<br />

blessed in certain ways on average than whites, so what? Kind of a compliment,<br />

if you ask me. Many people like to congratulate themselves though and say that<br />

any averaged statement is a generalization, therefore automatically false, and<br />

with evil intent to boot.Sure, blacks work hard, but white athletes work<br />

just as hard. Aren't there as many white kids going out for football,<br />

basketball, and track? Are they all lazy? Wanna have an all white team? Good<br />

luck winning many games (as the southern universities found out decades ago).<br />

Here are a couple of links re this<br />

subject:http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0007/23/bs.00.htmlhttp://www.<br />

kenanmalik.com/reviews/entine_taboo.htmlFor more, do a search on Jon<br />

Entine, who's written a book on the subject, and gets into real depth on the<br />

topic.|<br />

|11/24/03 08:38:49 PM|KOOKOO|NY||KOOKOOCLOCK000@YAHOO.COM||||10|I JUST CAN'T<br />

BELIEVE MY EYES, ROADMAN YOU GOT GUTS MAN, YOU ARE SMART AND KNOW I'M RIGHT, I'M<br />

WAITING FOR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE TO START WITH THE EXCUSES, I'M SURE THEIR ON<br />

THE WAY :) KOO KOO|<br />

|11/24/03 10:01:47 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|<strong>The</strong>re are<br />

less whites going into competitive sports such as boxing than there used to be.<br />

In the past, white ethnic groups such as Polish, Italian, German, and Jewish,<br />

didn't have a as much of a chance to escape poverty as they do now and a lot<br />

them went into boxing with success. <strong>The</strong>re are not many fighters such as Carman<br />

Basilio, Jake LaMotta, Gene Fullmer, Mikey Walker, etc. around today. <strong>The</strong>se<br />

fighters mentioned all had skill to compete at the highest levels and they would<br />

sitll be competitive if they fought today. Most of the would be Basilios,<br />

Klitschkos, Fullmers, Walkers, and LaMottas, have better educations than their

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