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January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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|3/21/03 10:01:35 AM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA<br />

CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@yahoo.com||||10|Forest, yes i liked Bonavena too,i could<br />

see jerry quarry getting frustrated,I could also see JERRY maybe even<br />

stopping,oscar(He should have only been the third fighter in history to stop<br />

CHUVALO)Athiough we will never know.Ross Brimer the thug guard, who shot<br />

Bonavena-mysteriously is also dead, JIMMY ELLIS,for sure was good ,if not great<br />

fighter for certain,He headined everywhere,and didn't dissapoint,like so many<br />

other fighter's,he enavitably stayed around to long.|<br />

|3/21/03 12:00:55 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Ellis was a very<br />

good fighter. He really was a blown-up middleweight who beat some very tough<br />

heavies. He put Bonavena on the deck twice which is very hard to do. Ellis<br />

starting going downhill after Shavers koyed him in 1. After that he stated<br />

loosing to guys like Kirkman. Ellis had a good sneaky right that hurt Frazier<br />

for a second in their first fight. He was also Ali's sparring partner for years.<br />

Does anyone remember Roy Tiger Williams? He was pretty tough. Not many guys<br />

wanted to mess with Roy.Also, Manual Ramos, the Mexican heavy of the 60's<br />

died a few years ago I just learned.|<br />

|3/21/03 04:19:40 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA<br />

CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|BIG JOHN:Manual Ramos is also dead?,do<br />

you know the cause??I'LL JUST BET HE SUFFERED FROM DEMENTIA TOO.I wonder why<br />

Ibar Arrington,and KIRKMAN,NEVER GOT IT ON UP IN SEATTLE,BONAVENA-KIRKMAN MIGHT<br />

HAVE MADE FOR AN EXCITING BOUT,BET THE HOUSE ON BONAVENA!|<br />

|3/21/03 05:42:39 PM|Forest Ward|South Carolina||joekevin@cs.com||||10|John, You<br />

are right Kirkman is lucky he never fought Liston, even if Liston was 70 years<br />

old. In fairness to Kirkman most fighters should be considered lucky if they<br />

didn't have to fight Liston. I was at the Liston-Wepner fight. Besides the<br />

fight itself, what I remember was Muhammad Ali was at the fight.Roy<br />

Williams, there is a name from the past! I still remember his fight with Earnie<br />

Shavers. I guess anyone who saw it still remembers it! Larry Holmes in his<br />

biography gives a good detailed look at the career of Roy Williams, Holmes<br />

freely admits he did not want to fight him (although he did), and further states<br />

that Williams was a good fighter who did not get the breaks. Roy Williams is a<br />

another example of my belief that a fighter's record alone does not always tell<br />

the whole story of a fighters ability. He did a stretch in prison for killing<br />

someone, sorry but I don't know the details. I heard he was released from<br />

prison a few years ago. John, Roy Williams won the NYC Golden Gloves<br />

Heavyweight Open Division in 1966.|<br />

|3/21/03 05:47:37 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|He was a protege of Joe Louis if I<br />

remember correctly. Peace.|<br />

|3/21/03 06:39:18 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Does anyone know the wherabouts of<br />

Bob Satterfield? Is he still alive? He would be around 80 now I guess. He beat<br />

among others :- Nick Barone(PTS10) Lee Oma(KO6) Harold Johnson(PTS10) Bob Baker<br />

(WKO1)Julio Mederos(WKO2)(WPTS10)John Holman(WKO1)Nino Valdes(WPTS10)Johnny<br />

Summerlin(WPTS10)Cleveland Williams(WKO3)What a puncher he was - a Light-Heavy<br />

that could bomb out the big boys. He was a bit chinny however! Curtis<br />

'Hatchetman) Sheppard is another from that era - he once knocked out Joey Maxim<br />

in one round. A real mean dude!|<br />

|3/21/03 09:05:12 PM|Forest Ward|South Carolina||joekevin@cs.com||||10|John,<br />

funny thing, I was thinking earlier today about other fighters who were good (in<br />

the Roy Williams category), but never quite got over the hump. One of the guys<br />

I thought of was Larry Middleton, and just a few seconds ago reviewing old posts<br />

I see his name in one of your earlier posts. Middleton was another fighter who<br />

had trouble getting fights, usually he had to take them on short notice or he<br />

was put in against guys over his head. I only saw him fight once and he lost<br />

to Dwayne Bobbick. I am sure Middleton was either, A. at the end of his career,<br />

or B. he had "handcuffs" on. What I remember reading about Middleton years ago<br />

was that he was a good boxer, not much of a puncher. I was alway feel for

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