January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

fundamentals. Duh! I also said the same about Jerry Quarry once. Fundamentally
speaking, most Olympians are more fundamentally sound. Ali's speed, craftiness,
hard head, ability to handle himself when in trouble, and ability to avoid
follow up punches were his fortes, not sublime boxing ~fundamentals~.Ali
was just a showy punching bag. Ali couldn't throw combinations, etc,
etc.>Did I say that? Hmmm. No, I don't think I did. Yall're embellishing
my words a bit to try and make a counter point, when you didn't fully grasp my
original premise(s).it's another to post silly inane insults. Anyway, if
Ali was such a bum, then what does that make your hero ? Cheers.>You
must not have read all my posts in which I lavishly complimented the man.
Besides, I already aplogized for criticizing St. Muhammad. Sheesh. |
|12/19/03 12:30:12
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Gerry -So
far I've said Foreman and Quarry were better ~boxers~ than Ali. Not necessarily
better all the time in the full scope of things that go into a match, and
sometimes never as good in some of the things Ali did well. ~But~, as far as the
bread and butter, meat and potatoes of boxing fundamentals, George and Jerry
made only a small fraction of the mistakes Ali did. MA had many things he used
to compensate, and these stood him in good stead. It's a tragedy that in such a
savage sport, one of fractions of a second and fractions of an inch, often with
only one chance to get it right, that the "sweet spot," that magical night is
often so elusive, or that little things, not even noticeable in everyday life,
can conspire to change things just once.|
|12/19/03 12:37:19 AM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Gerry,I think
Frazeir was underated as a boxer at his range.If he could keep you in that
certain area where you could hit him ,but he could hit you.He was excellant at
pitty patting inside his range for 4 or 5 punches,and then loading up on a
combination.He was excellent at slipping and rolling away from punches.To me,he
was a very good boxer,when he got you withen range.He did seem to get everyone
he fought in range,including Ali.|
|12/19/03 01:00:09 AM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|What does being a
better boxer mean? Every time Frazeir got "withen range",Ali grabed him behind
the neck,and pulled his head down!He elbowed,backhanded,held,and never lost a
point!In Manilla,Frazeir only lost by his corners'bad decision.Ali was spent!!
Frazeir would have KO'D Ali in the next round. |
|12/19/03 01:00:37 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|RS - muffle
the hysterics for one moment, and produce some evidence that one of the biggest
fights in history was fixed. You continually accuse Foreman and Ali of the
serious crime of fixing a fight, yet so far you haven't produced even one iota
of evidence to support it. It's one thing to hate someone because he twice beat
your hero, or because he's prettier than you, or whatever your particular beef
is, but it does you no credit to dream up hateful and vexatious allegations
about him. So let's put you to the test ....... produce evidence - not biased
hunches - to support your allegation that Foreman was faking it against Ali.
We're waiting, RS. (If you do prove it, Russell Crow, Tom Cruise, and the whole
of Hollywood, will be queueing up begging Big Old George for some acting
lessons.) Cheers. ((: |
|12/19/03 01:08:09 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Steve -
Woulda, Coulda, and Shoulda, never won anything. The fact is that Frazier didn't
come out for the last round and Ali did. Frazier's corner threw the towel in,
and Ali's corner didn't. A loss appears on Frazier's resume; a win is shown on
Ali's. End of story. Cheers.|
|12/19/03 01:13:11 AM|steve |N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|I still think that
Joe Frazier vs Larry Holmes would have been a fascinating fight,both in their
prime. |
|12/19/03 01:22:15 AM|steve |N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Paul,would you
at least agree that a very fine line seperated Ali and Frazier? If Foreman is