January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

tape a copy of Frazier vs. Jimmy Ellis (their second fight). As I recall, this
one was outdoors, in a hot climate. I remember that Ellis fought his best,
though Joe caught him and TKOed him in the middle rounds (maybe round 9). Ellis
is underrated, having fought in the toughest era and winning most of his fights,
losing mostly to great champions. |
|1/8/04 10:28:13
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Jimmy Ellis fought
Frazier in Melbourne the second time. Joe said the fight was a breeze. Ellis
was, though, an excellent fighter, and sort of in the same boat as Jerry Quarry
- a small heavy in boxing's toughest age.I'll tell you a division that's
never gotten its due, and has had some great boxers through the years - the
light heavyweights. It used to be said that middleweights were popular because
the average man was that size (and for the great fighters too), but that isn't
true anymore. The average man who isn't overweight (rare these days) is
lightheavy-sized. |
|1/8/04 11:56:00 AM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|ALI BEAT FRAZIER
IN MANILA HANDS DOWN, ANY DUMBASS WHO THINKS IT WAS EVEN CLOSE IS CRAZY, FRAZIER
GETTING HIT 5 TO 1, STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT BUM PRIMO , IT'S A WASTE OF SPACE ON
HERE, MASSIMO , IF YOU TALKED ABOUT ROCKY MARCIANO I WOULD UNDERSTAND, BUT PRIMO
??? GET REAL OR GIVE IT UP!|
|1/8/04 01:04:56 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Without Carnera boxing would be so
boring !Just like wrestling without Andre' the Midget, tennis without the
great Mc Enroe or soccer without Maradona ( Pele' was the greatest, but Diego
was the most funny to watch, he made the ball sing, a real genius ! ). How many
Carnera' s fights have you seen ? I guess just 1: BAER-CARNERA.Do you know
that Primo fought is first fight against Sharkey just a few hours after having
had a serious car accident in which he lost senses ? That means having guts (
and being crazy, as well...).RS-The fight was a breeze !?! Does it
mean that was easy ?PS: yes, Manilla was a walk in the park for Ali'... I
don't understand why he trained for that fight ))))|
|1/8/04 03:12:57
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Frazier said his
Melbourne fight with Jimmy Ellis was easy, yes. Oh, of course Manilla was easy
for Ali. Muhammad probably just played ping-pong to get ready for it, and of
course won every round, laughing at Joe Frazier's punches. He probably could
have fought again that very night, one or two more times, maybe, or maybe
juggled at the same time he was fighting Smokin' Joe. Everyone knows
that.Seriously though, I had the fight 7-6-1 for Joe. I could be talked
into the same score the other way though, even if it'd take some smooth talking.
Very close, and begging for round 15, which would have been basically a blind
man against a throroughly beaten one. Foreman was the only Frazier opponent not
forced into Joe's rhythm, fighting for his own survival.|
|1/8/04 03:30:03 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Okay RS, was
the "fight" between Ali and Frazier (Wide World of Sports during their interview
with Cosell) staged to promote their second fight? I've always heard that the
two of them agreed to do it just to build up the rematch. And if you watch it,
Ali ended up on top of Joe on the floor---wrestling instead of throwing punches.
Looked staged to me. But lately, I read somewhere that Ali's comment that Joe
was ignorant and his reference to Joe being in the hospital after the first
fight angered Joe and the altercation was real.|
|1/8/04 04:07:46
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Angelo -
Everything tells me it was staged. Here are two of the most deadly and
efficient fighting machines who ever lived, yet at the interview, they postured
like two high school boys who didn't really want to fight, then after they "lost
control," they just rolled around. Even a couple of wimps in the chemistry club
would have thrown a punch or two. The only puzzling thing is that it was Ali's